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Stark




msg:33060
 3:13 pm on Jul 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have a moderately sized site with a few thousand pages, that is starting to rank reasonable well in Google, but I have absolutely no listing whatsoever in ask.co.uk or teoma.

The site has recently been listed in dmoz (but not yet appeared in the google directory) and has incoming links from sites that are listed in Teoma, but still nothing.

I am considering paying to be added to ask.co.uk using the signup form on their site for 40, but I have two questions.

1 - Is this worth it, or am I likely to be spidered pretty soon anyway due to my recent dmoz addition?

2 - More importantly, given I am submitting just one URL, will that mean that is the only page I get in there, or will that be sufficient to kick the spider into life and go get the rest of the site?

(Sorry if this has been answered before, I did try to find the information!)

 

makemetop




msg:33061
 3:49 pm on Jul 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

You may get spidered in time - but it will take a long time!

The Teoma UK DB is not the same as the US DB, the only way to get in quickly is via PFI or Trusted Feed.

However, I have a 4K page site in Trusted Feed and the traffic is pretty impressive from AJ UK.

Stark




msg:33062
 3:56 pm on Jul 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't mind paying to get in there, I just want to check it will be more than the one specific URL I list :)

My home page doesn't have any useful content on it really anyway, the content is much deeper.

So to clarify, if I pay via PFI or Trusted Feed, I will get all my pages spidered? I realise that wouldn't be immediate, but would it be reasonably soon? (i.e. weeks rather than years)

caine




msg:33063
 3:37 am on Jul 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to webmasterworld Stark,

If you use the trusted feed method, all your pages would get crawled and reguarly crawled and update very often, expensive though.

If the question i think you are asking is can you just add the base url via the PFI, and then eventually the rest of the site will be crawled and added - possibly - but i would'nt hold your breath with that method.

If your thinking cheap - then hunt down high ranking links in teoma for sites pertinent to your site/choice of keywords, and wait.

PFI is a bit of a double edged sword for a partial inclusion of a site, possibly the rest of the site maybe added at some point. However, you may also find that the rest of the site is deliberately excluded.

I've had a site fully indexed in teoma, though not via the PFI, and thought i would submit sectional heads via PFI to accomodate new changes to the site, however all the pages that were not submitted to the PFI, which were in Teoma, dissapeared or got buried deep down where no one can see. Make from this what you will.

Stark




msg:33064
 2:21 pm on Jul 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the help.... I've since discovered something that I hadn't previously considered. My site is indexed fine in ask, but apparently not considered a UK site.

It uses a .com domain but is hosted within the UK, and google has no problems recognising it as UK based.

This leaves me with a bit of a problem, I would consider paying the money to list, but if they consider it to be a non-uk site (which it clearly isn't the moment you see it) then I could theoretically get refused and lose the money.

On the other hand, if paying to list gets someones attention and maens my site gets listed as being UK based, then it's probably money well spent.

Any ideas?

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