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Wondering if Teoma/Ask Jeeves are going to index me automatically

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Msg#: 279 posted 11:42 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Okay, here's the scene. I've got a PR5 site with 50 external links to my site showing up in Google. This site has been up and running for 5 months or so but I still haven't been crawled by Ask Jeeves/Teoma.

Do you guys think that I should bite the bullet and PPI or should I just be patient and wait for the crawler to index me for free? Have any of you found that PPI on Ask/Teoma offers a good ROI or is it really not worth paying for? Just to give you an idea, I sell <snip> online if that influences your response.

Once again, any help you can give would be most appreciated.

Chris Holgate

[edited by: engine at 9:06 am (utc) on May 10, 2003]
[edit reason] no specifics, thanks [/edit]



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Msg#: 279 posted 10:47 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi chrisholgate, and welcome [webmasterworld.com] to WebmasterWorld.

It depends on what market you are in to determine if PFI with Ask Jeeves is worth it or not. My experience is that they will eventually find you and list your site for free, but the PFI is a small price to pay to try a few URL's and see if it pays off for you.


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Msg#: 279 posted 2:16 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

For some reason when I mention what I sell it gets snipped. I'm not spamming my business just thought it would be relevant to my question!

Hope this doesn't get snipped but my site is a mail order business, targetting members of the public and small businesses. Won't mention exactly what so that this post doesn't get removed.

Kind Regards



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Msg#: 279 posted 4:30 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

The prior snips on your specifics are because the TOS here simply doesn't allow for posting individual specifics.

Thus most posts refer to mydomain.com, or perhaps greatkeyword-goodkeyword.com, widgets, bright blue widgets, anytown widgets, or keyword 1 keyword2, etc.

Disallowing specifics helps to minimize the attractiveness of these forums as spammer targets, and that helps keep the posts useful and less cluttered.

On the SE's you've asked about, try to obtain some links from sites which are already indexed by those SE's if you don't desire or can't currently afford to invest in paid inclusion.

The info site I'm (still too slowly) learning how to maintain and improve is listed in the two SE's you reference, Big G and some others. There's never been a paid listing to my knowledge to anyone, so it is possible for it to happen.

Hope that's helps


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Msg#: 279 posted 12:53 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)


If you are looking at the teoma, and thinking you want in for free, then i would suggest hunting down links, that are in the related expert links on the right of the SERPs, also hunting down links from the ODP in related area's. This should prompt things a little. But be patient, it takes time.

If you have not got the patience, then as pmac suggests, the PFI is another alternative, or even G's PPC-adword program which translates through to teoma as a partner of the program.


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Msg#: 279 posted 3:58 am on Jun 11, 2003 (gmt 0)


Do you have a site that changes very often and do you try to use SEO to rank higher? If you say yes to any of these then I suggest using the PFI feature. They send a spider your way more often, you dont have to HOPE you get in, and you are included for a long period of time. If you really wanted to you could pay to include one site and have links to other sites you may run and that should help you get the others in as the spider crawls your site.


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Msg#: 279 posted 5:04 am on Jun 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm not spamming my business just thought it would be relevant to my question!

We don't need no specifics.
We don't need no stinking specifics!

Seriously, though, specifics really spoil a thread. Nothing kills a thread faster, nor makes it more boring.

My take on your question is that they will find you through the links, if you have the patience to wait.

But if "freshness" or immediate response is important, PFI makes sense.


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Msg#: 279 posted 2:06 am on Jun 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

We started with Teoma PFI for our index and now we are well crawled for our whole site. Better than Google.:)


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Msg#: 279 posted 6:53 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

On these services that are PFI, you pay per URL but aren't these engines spider driven making your whole site indexed? I'm a little confused here.

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