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Teoma's Hungry
More Teoma Hits than Google

 12:18 am on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this.

But I've gotten about 1,000 more hits from Teoma than from Google since last month; and Teoma is still in getting pages at the rate of 5-6 per minute.

Anyone else had similar experience?




 2:34 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have not really investigated it, but it seems like Teoma has increased it's spidering pace a bit and become more frequent in updates.

This does not surprise me. The competition is heating up and they need to keep increasing the size and freshness of the index or be left behind.


 2:51 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hmmm, rank well with teoma but no hits. On the other hand, Google is sending lots of hits.

I do get > 1000 hits from google but 0 hits from teoma so I am really doubt if people use Teoma. :(


 3:13 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

They do use AskJeeves. Teoma supplies the DB for AJ.


 3:44 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

As I write I'm up to over 18,000 pages crawled by Teoma now. It's definately more aggressive. Still going at around 15 per minute average.

Gonna be fun when those get in the index. Ask Jeeves may be my new best friend.



 4:18 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

There was a mention of things to come at the last WebmasterWorld conference in Boston, by Paul Gardi - just have to wait and see - what he was meaning.

I definetly can concur that their is more aggressive spidering, whether that means that they plan to seriously increase the size of the DB, i don't know, as they have always suggested that their database is the size it is because of the spam filtering technique's that they utilise to capture the web.


 5:16 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

How do you know Teoma is on your site (IP address)? Our site ranks quite poorly in Teoma where we rank well with Google.


 5:18 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

You want to know the secret of having Teoma start sending you traffic? Tell people about it and tell them to use it. There is no way people will use it unless theyre told about it.

Teoma hasn't been ravaging my pages like the googlebot has, but then again Google likes to go really really deep :D


 5:31 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Teoma is using DMOZ site title and description. My site is listed in DMOZ. So my site has been crawled without the need to pay.

I rank in top 10 for many good keywords in both teoma and google. But google tend to send a lot of visitors while teoma and ask, send 0.


 7:12 pm on May 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Tell people about it and tell them to use it

EliteWeb is right. I tell tech savvy folks about Teoma and untech savvy people about Ask.

Of the two, most of my traffic comes from Ask. On in the range of 5 - 7%. All picked up by spidering.


 4:13 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is a user agent of "Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; Ask Jeeves/Teoma)" legitimate for Teoma?

I've been getting hit pretty hard these past couple of days by the above, keeping a pretty sustained 110 pages/min ..

If it's really Teoma then I guess I don't mind, though IMHO a bit rude of them to fake as Mozilla :( .. if it's not I wanna get rid! ..

IP is


 4:19 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Teoma has also wondered its way thru pretty much my whole site (22,000 pages grabbed) in the last week. Much more activity from them than in a normal month.

Visitors coming from them are also up, in 5th place, beating out AltaVista.

creative craig

 12:53 pm on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am seeing Teoam busy on a few of my sites as well, hope this will mean some hits in the near future from them :)



 2:22 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, here's an update.

Teoma's *still* in there, crawling at around 10-20 pages/minute, and has so far got around 35,000 pages from me (and going strong).

Anyone have ideas on when I can expect to see these results in the Ask/Teoma SERPS?



 4:57 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Paul Gardi gave me the impression that they are serious about expanding their database and moving toward fresher and fresher results.

One thing I'm having a problem with: I am able to count the hits, but I can't resolve the keywords the visitors are coming in with, which makes it hard to analyze if it's quality traffic or random fluff.

Anybody else experiencing this?


 7:13 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see Teoma crawles on my site all the time and actually place well on numerous terms.

If only more people would use it, I might see more traffic. As it is, I only get a couple referrals a week from them.


 2:23 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

Here's another update...very aggressive :)

Up to 90,000 pages...and crawling at around 3-5 pages per second. Wow.

Very anxious to see how this bodes once results are in Teoma's index.



 4:03 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

I sure hope Teoma finds my site. I did a search on my keywords and found pages from my site -- two servers ago and long gone!

The annoying thing is that the url might incriminate me (cough) well, in a matter of speaking anyway, and I'd love to be able to ask "Jeeves" to take the listing out -- mais non, I'd have to pay them or something. How aggravating.

The weirdest thing is that I only know of one or two links ever to that old, old site of mine, whereas my current one is linked to from a lot of places (but has only been up for 6-7 mo.s), including DMOZ.

I guess when they say Teoma is slow, they mean it.

please, please find my new site this crawl!


 4:47 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)


> Is a user agent of "Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; Ask Jeeves/Teoma)" legitimate for Teoma?

Yes, that is legitimate if it's coming from one of their IP addresses.



 4:55 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)


Can any of you track what the keywords your visitors from Teoma/Ask are using?

Come on, don't be shy now.


 12:07 pm on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Can any of you track what the keywords your visitors from Teoma/Ask are using?

At best it is partial tracking. I just use a freebie Sitemeter tracker. Most of the strings are too long but I can click back and find the shorter phrases. It is easier with Teoma than Ask, but most of the traffic is from Ask.

It is easier to see the referrals from the metasearch partners like Dogpile and Mamma.


 7:45 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

New to the forum. Hello all.

Teoma is banging away at my site, too. Currently at about 10-12 pages per minute.


 8:26 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Jeeves/Teoma started hitting us real hard starting about April 1st and Jeeves referrals popped up from 0.7% to about 8.0% within a week -- and still going quite strongly.

Paul Gardi gave me the impression that they are serious about expanding their database and moving toward fresher and fresher results.

Hey matinibuster, you know, Paul was quite low key at PubCon but apparently he was able to get some good info out to a lot of small groups. To us he also emphasized the fresh results (which explains the aggressive spidering) and went on to say that the 'related searches' on Jeeves and 'refine' option on Temoa were getting a lot of use.

Good to see that they aren't sitting back, always need an alternative to big G. Now let alltheweb get the word out and we might have some pretty good competition.



 10:48 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

We're suddenly getting a pile of visitors from Ask too (as well as AV and ATW).

I can just about work out what the search queries are by working backwards. I know where most of the queries come from so if I cross reference the times of the hits from Ask with what's left I can see what most of them are.
Quicker and easier to just guess! :-)


 8:06 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)


Crawled Pages this month: 145,909
Pages per second: 5

I think Paul (and Teoma's press release) was serious about expanding Teoma's database. So far Teoma's got 15 times the pages that Google did for my site.



 2:26 am on May 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Teoma got about 35k+ pages from me. Cant wait to see the results of it.


 2:53 pm on May 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Teoma Update [webmasterworld.com]

In the above thread, started yesterday, i've noticed changes in the serps, some quite profound, though not all, drop any changes you see into that thread. So that we can start to build up a picture of What Paul meant and what Teoma's new algo is doing or how its changing!




 3:08 pm on May 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

...Paul was quite low key at PubCon...

I must have been in a different room :)

I don't get why they are pushing teoma and not ask. In pubcon I don't think he mentioned ask jeeves more than once or twice.

Ask seems to already have a loyal following - teoma [proper] probably gets more hits from this board than anywhere else.

Teoma is hard to spread by word of mouth - as its name is weird.

Don't get me wrong - I think ask jeeves is stupid, and teoma a much better search engine (yes I know ask is powered by teoma - I mean from a semi-user point of reference).

Ask could be your one stop shop for internet searches, but instead they are going with "teoma". I know internet names are hard to find, but I don't like it....


 3:12 pm on May 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

try saying alltheweb to the uninitiated, thats a mouthful.

teoma's name working against itself, never looked at that angle before, interesting!

I think the reasoning behind Paul's lack of mentioning of AJ, is that as you mentioned Teoma is the algo, and AJ is a dependant of it, hence certianly for my own presence it was teoma i was interested in hearing about, and not AJ.


 3:17 pm on May 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>I don't get why they are pushing teoma and not ask.

I was not at PubCon, but it seems to me it would be because they are aiming Teoma at webmasters and Ask at the general public. Since Pubcon was filled with webmasters, SEO's and the like, all of whom know Teoma feeds Ask, he just cut to the chase and talked about T.

If he was at a conference aimed at the general public I bet he would hardly mention Teoma it would all be about Ask.

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