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Should I pay to submit? or wait?
jamesyap

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Msg#: 229 posted 12:51 pm on Jan 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

My new site is doing well with google but not for teoma. The bot came only twice last month, once for the robots.txt and anoter time for the root. However my site is not in their database.

1. I have 30+ inbound links to my site, do you think I should wait for teoma bot to come or should I submit?

2. If I submit, I will only submit 6 importants pages of my site instead of all. Is there anything like if I pay for the 6 URLs, teoma won't index other pages in my site anymore? If this is the case, I better wait for the bot to come itself to index the whole site.

Anyone has experience on how long their new site is index by teoma?

 

JeevesGuy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 3:18 am on Jan 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi Jamesyap

There is absolutely no penalty associated with submitting urls to the Paid Inclusion program. There is literally no connection between our list of Paid Inclusion urls and the list, or rules, that the spider follows during its regular (unpaid) crawls. It is in our best interest to grow the index to include good content. If we find your unpaid urls and determine that they have good content, it is likely that they will be included. That said, any number of factors can cause us to determine that it will not benefit the index to include them, however your PI submission is not one of those factors.

Thanks

JeevesGuy

martinibuster

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Msg#: 229 posted 3:33 am on Jan 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Oh brother! We have a JeevesGuy now!

This is like the Gremlins when you spill water on them and they start to multiply: First GoogleGuy, then Inktomi and now JeevesGuy...

What's next, ButterflyGuy from MSN?

Seriously though, I was on vacation when you first started posting, so this is the first time I noticed you.

Good information.

Thanks!

:) Y

jamesyap

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 6:14 am on Jan 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi! Welcome here JeevesGuy! You comments are helpful. I think this forum will be more interesting later on since most guys will be expecting someone from ASK to response - human nature, they like to confirm and confirm and confirm. I bet later on they will refer you as JG. Just like googleguy = GG. haha

I check the log and ASK bot return the 3rd time yesterday, but takes only the root page, AGAIN?!

My another question - since submitting the 2nd URL onwards will be cheaper, is it possible to submit more URLs later in time when I think is nessecarry at the lower price? Since the form look like I will need to submit them at once.

JeevesGuy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 4:41 am on Jan 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi Jamesyap

Thanks for the welcome. It is our pleasure to provide good information and perspective. Your comment about: "confirm, confirm, confirm" got a good chuckle here (we understand the value of certainty). With that in mind we try to take the time to answer issues that are rather high level in nature such as speculation about the impact of participating in PI on inclusion of unpaid urls. In the interest of using our resources, including time on this board, wisely ... we ask that you work through our partner (INeedHIits.com) for operational questions such as the cost of subsequent pages. ask.query@ineedhits.com

Thanks

JeevesGuy

webbie

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 11:34 am on Jan 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi JeevesGuy!

A question: I know that AskJeeves is supposed to come here in France: do you have any date or quarter to say to me it will be launched?
Knowing the French market I have my own opinion about this launch in France but hope to have yours ;-)
ps: will you hire people in France?

talk4

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 2:44 pm on Jan 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

As a user of the Ineedhits submission programme to Teoma I can confirm that I was only charged $30 once and it's then $18 however many times you submit more pages.

caine

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 12:02 pm on Feb 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

JeevesGuy,

If one was to submit the base url, but no other pages, could one assume that the entire site, excluding the base url, will have absolutely no chance of getting indexed, due to a red flag on it becuase of the one paid for listing?

JeevesGuy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 5:18 pm on Feb 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi Caine

There is absolutely no penalty associated with submitting urls to the Paid Inclusion program. There is literally no connection between our list of Paid Inclusion urls and the list, or rules, that the spider follows during its regular (unpaid) crawls. It is in our best interest to grow the index to include good content. If we find your unpaid urls and determine that they have good content, it is likely that they will be included. That said, any number of factors can cause us to determine that it will not benefit the index to include them, however your PI submission is not one of those factors.

Thanks

cjtripnewton

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 3:19 pm on Feb 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> There is absolutely no penalty associated with
>> submitting urls to the Paid Inclusion program.

JeevesGuy,

Welcome to WebmasterWorld. It's good to have you here, and great to hear such a statement. That's good policy, and will encourage more paid submissions.

Thank you.

amythepoet

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 9:20 pm on Feb 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can I submit to Jeeves without paying?

kevinpate

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 10:46 pm on Feb 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hiya poet.

I don't know the process for submitting without payment, but I do know this: once Jeeves or Teoma find you via crawling, they ultimately get to be just like a backwards cousin of that pink rabbit which bangs the drum ...
they keep coming, and coming, and coming ... back for more.

I may not get as many referrals from their SE's, but I get many warm fuzzy visits from their rabbits, er, I mean spiders. And if I'm easy to find, referrals may catch up some day.

From my observations, Jeeves and Teoma are both good robot.txt stewards as well.

amythepoet

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 11:05 pm on Feb 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

so your'e saying then that I don't have to pay, just got some more topical links from people who are linked to jeeves and then I would be all set?

cjtripnewton

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 229 posted 1:09 pm on Feb 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

AmyThePoet,

There is no way to submit your site without paying, but if you wait, there is a strong chance that your site will eventually spidered, just like it would by Google.

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