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Major Teoma Update
what do you think
mfagan

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Msg#: 145 posted 11:08 pm on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

Searching for the name of my site has jumped in results from 75 to 219.

Anyone else seing this?

I haven't paid them. It seems to have crawled all of my site (about 90 pages)

 

caine

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Msg#: 145 posted 11:14 pm on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

confirmed, and a major one.

all my pages are in and they rank as high as they do in Google and Fast.

I thought the Teoma algo, was a little special, but now i can see it is, Thumbs up. It dose'nt have the baised weighting on the base url, because of the incoming links, its actually listing the targetted pages, which is better than i have seen from Fast, or Google.

Big Smile

Brad

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Msg#: 145 posted 11:56 pm on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well I didn't improve on every test phrase, but overall the SERP's look better than before. I'm getting more impressed as time goes on.

I did improve however. I'm noticing more hits from Ask.com - might be just a fluke.

pageoneresults

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Msg#: 145 posted 12:19 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nice update! I've been working at taking the #1 position for a particular phrase and this update put me right there. The SERP's look fairly clean and get this, Webmaster World is #1 for search engine optimization. That is what I call a targeted result!

rcjordan

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Msg#: 145 posted 12:27 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Very nice indeed! From the looks of my target serp, I'd say they've upped the 'themes' side of the algo.

mfagan

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Msg#: 145 posted 2:32 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I can't remember if this was a problem before, but my page titles which look like
"Name > Sub > Page" show up like "Name Sub Page"
which makes it much less readable.

eljefe3

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Msg#: 145 posted 5:00 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

All of the first 10 results in a competitive search I did were spam. Subdomains with redirects and some on free servers. They still have a long way to go on competitive searches if this is any example.

lindavh

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Msg#: 145 posted 5:16 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

how do you check sites that link to your site in the teoma search engine?
thank you,
Linda

msr986

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Msg#: 145 posted 5:28 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I decided to check my listings after reading this post, and I must say, I'm pleasantly surprised.

Now maybe I'll notice more hits from Teoma. Has anyone noticed an increase in traffic?

-Marty

Hunter

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Msg#: 145 posted 5:30 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'd say they've upped the 'themes' side of the algo.

me thinks you are correct sir...

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 145 posted 5:47 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Teoma/askjeeves still has some serious problems. (Both have updated, but give different results). A notable example is one I have open in a window on my desktop now. On a key single word search my current site is in position #1 and #10, but Teoma is also still listing in position #9 a page that has been off the Net since February 28, 2002 that I had up at a free website host. Yes, you read right. They are still listing my site at a URL it hasn't been at since February. It is one thing to question what priorities the people coding a search engine use for their algo, and whether they are listing my site high on certain search terms I think they should. However, the easiest thing in the world for a search engine to do should be to weed out listings that have been dead for over 3 months. Just check to see if those URLs work, and if not drop them from the database if they don't. It doesn't appear Teoma/Askjeeves is doing that with any regularity. I guess it is possible that like there
is a "Google dance", perhaps there is also a Teoma/Askjeeves, and these listings will drop from the index soon. We shall see.

chiyo

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Msg#: 145 posted 6:03 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

What Im seeing is a great themes based algo with good relevancy. The major significant problem which spoils it all is that many returns are of badly out of date pages and sites, often with many broken links outgoing from those pages. There does not seem to be the same respect for recency that Google or ATW has.

When that is sorted out Google and ATW will have serious competition.

keyplyr

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:46 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)


Alas, they have finallly updated my description. Moved right to the top in all KW. Now, if they would just get that toolbar into the user's browser!

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 145 posted 8:04 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

To be honest, what I am seeing is less than great IMO. However, it is as Mr. Spock would say "interesting", but still a mess and I can't figure out how the heck I can be top of the heap on one keyword search and buried way down below on another. In any case, all of those dead links which easily could have been removed are a real bummer.

caine

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Msg#: 145 posted 8:08 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

you may find that your site is heavily skewed towards a particular term or grouping of terms, and underepresentative of the other term, that you wish to rank high for.

highman

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Msg#: 145 posted 8:14 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Looking fairly good, the spider is not as aggresive as googles or fasts. Thumbs up on 'getting there'

littleman

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Msg#: 145 posted 8:31 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

SSSlllllllloooooooooooowwwwww inclusion.
I finally have an eight month old site in there. The six month old site is nowhere to be seen.

Crazy_Fool

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Msg#: 145 posted 8:58 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

initial searches on teoma look good. lots of top spots for lots of my client's sites. shame that ask jeeves is still showing results from directhit.

keyplyr

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Msg#: 145 posted 9:01 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)


> ask jeeves is still showing results from directhit

Not for what I've tried. DH has an old description of my site, both Teoma and AJ now are showing the new description.

sparrow

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Msg#: 145 posted 12:07 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ahhhhhhh.........
that's much better, feels good to be no1

przero2



 
Msg#: 145 posted 6:48 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

how to find how many pages of a domain are in teoma?

EliteWeb

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:21 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

It may feel good to be #1, but theres a billion other engines my sites are in that are number one, however no one sends the traffic like google. I however did notice a few of my sites that did jump rapidly to the top.

namniboose

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:21 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've been complaining about Teoma's alogorithm for a few months now - the results for Maui keywords were coming up with Kauai and Oahu sites on the first page but this update they seem to have fixed that (and incidentally, my site has jumped from page 5 to page 1).

Still seeing a difference between Teoma and Ask Jeeves. For my most important keyword phrase my site is at #6 on Teoma and #1 on Ask Jeeves (I'm not complaining!).

john316

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:45 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've seen a tremendous amount of serps totally spammed by ebay..those guys are ruthless. Basically worthless results.

Brad

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:55 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Still seeing a difference between Teoma and Ask Jeeves. For my most important keyword phrase my site is at #6 on Teoma and #1 on Ask Jeeves (I'm not complaining!).

Could the data from Direct Hit be incorporated into Ask Jeeves and not in Teoma? That might explain the differences. They did mention something about having incorporated Direct Hit technology.

Ask Jeeves uses the Teoma DB but they may not be trying to use it with the same algorithm as Teoma. Not that I know this for sure, but it would explain why they are not identical.

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:06 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

I like the results enough that I wish they had more traffic.

I still think they're going to need a much bigger database to compete with Google.

jitesh

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Msg#: 145 posted 11:43 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

giving more emphasis on meta description and title.

caine

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Msg#: 145 posted 1:33 pm on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

teoma search, really needs to be deployed in all of Ask Jeeves public search assets, then it would start too seriously claim some decent traffic.

makemetop



 
Msg#: 145 posted 1:56 pm on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

AJ UK and .com referrals are way up for me thanks to Teoma - getting into the double figure percentages of uniques per day when combined. I'm very pleased so far - but they do have a bit of a way to go to keep the DB fresh.

namniboose

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Msg#: 145 posted 7:19 pm on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

'giving more emphasis on meta description and title'

Yes, thank goodness. For location-specific sites the lack of reference to description and title was bringing up inaccurate results (among the Hawaiian Islands anyway).

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