| 11:07 am on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I can't say i have as yet, though i can't really see that i will avoid it in the future.
However i have watched and read here, a variety of concerns about the pfi program run for teoma.
1. the pfi does not entitle a site to automatic rank, its inclusion only, your site is still fair game to competition, and if its not very well organised, it will be heavily downgraded by Teoma's algo.
2. the time of inclusion, has been questioned certainly in the initial stages of the pfi going online, with complaints, being raised here, about delays and lack of email reponse, though it seems to be working smoother now-a-days, as the amount of posts, concerned with complaints against teoma and its pfi partner, have certainly diminished, which suggest teething problems.
| 11:30 am on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)|
"the amount of posts, concerned with complaints against teoma and its pfi partner, have certainly diminished, which suggest teething problems"
I certainly agree with that, as our recent (minor) problems with the PFI service have been dealt with quickly and efficiently, which is always nice.
In our case, the PFI model has worked nicely and our submitted sites are ranking well on Teoma and Ask across our desired range of keywords. We've become prominent in a matter of days, rather than months as would have been the case without PFI.
Our sites are fairly well organised though and as caine points out, sites where this is not the case may be penalised.
Traffic increase? Not a great deal as yet unfortunately, but the night is still young...
| 11:37 am on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)|
My feeling is that they soon will get a better fix on the customer service side of it.
They'd better if they want to stay in business ;)
| 12:33 pm on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I can not say the same. It has been months since we paid for the submission, yet we have seen absolutely no results.
About 2 weeks ago we recieved an email confirming inclusion, but still I have not seen any results.
The revelance in my opinion also leaves something to be desired.....but that's just my opinion
| 5:26 pm on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I paid for inclusion in Teoma/AJ and all 26 URL's were included the next day. We rank #1 for each of them. However, I am with Ritch_b , great placement but very little results.
| 5:31 pm on Jul 2, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Their is no harm predicting the future, though agreeing with the general feelings that teoma, is not the biggest traffic generator in the world, sites are starting to feel referals, i would rather have a front seat, and go get some pop corn when it goes nuts, rather than scramble for the peanuts on the back row.
| 10:28 am on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I am still new to these forums and manage a few sites ranging from pr 5-7. I have never heard of Teoma (always use Google) before I came here and so went to take a look. For me and what it is worth any search engine that charges for url submission is not worth it.
How is it possible to have the most accurate results when some sites may not even be in there. Just my two penneth.
| 2:38 pm on Jul 3, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I paid to be included a couple of weeks back and got in last week... however, just this minute i receive from them-
"Error: Thank you for submitting your site(s). Your site received an Error code # 13. You are receiving this message because our initial scan of your site caused us to believe that it may require additional evaluation of its content. Our efforts to maintain as clean an index as possible forces us to be very conservative in our nalysis of site content. We will be executing a secondary review of your site immediately. If we find that our initial review is incorrect we will index your site within the next 7 days, we apologize for the delay
during this testing period and appreciate your patience in advance.
the sites up and running and is good content as far as i'm concerned so can't see a problem with it!!
| 12:39 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Ade_Uk I submitted to ask/teoma and also got an "error 13". In talking to some of the members of the board I realized that sometimes the tolerance level is different in different places. Upon contacting a very helpful representative I found out that ask/teoma is taking a very agressive stance on content. Even though the material may not be p***ographic in nature if it depicts even partial nudity or can be construed as suggestive expect to get an "error 13". I don't know if this applies to your site or not. One of the things that was suggested is to restructure the site so that any material that may even be possibly offensive or not kid friendly is at least three (3) clicks from the url you submited. Another option was to make a seperate sub-section for said material and put an age verification form that would block anyone using net nanny or similar programs.
P.S. If your site doesn't fall into the above call them directly, waiting for an e-mail response will get you nowhere quickly. Just remember the time difference, they are in Australia.
| 7:43 am on Jul 4, 2002 (gmt 0)|
the site this is on is a clients stamp collecting site ! so its not po***graphic :)
my only thought was that its a PHP nuke site so perhaps the code is causing probs?
| 9:26 pm on Jul 5, 2002 (gmt 0)|
If you submit your home page only, will the robot follow your links to the other pages of your site? Or do you have to pay the $18 for each page beyond your home page?
| 9:49 pm on Jul 5, 2002 (gmt 0)|
It will only list the index page, via the pfi submit.
However the pages maybe crawled via teoma trying to expand its database, hence no one is sure if you can still get freebies into the db, give it a try and let us know.