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Slashdot disses Teoma. Again.
I still say, if the geeks hate it, it's doomed.
mbauser2

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Msg#: 138 posted 8:19 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

They were kinda rough on Teoma the first time they talked about it [slashdot.org], and the general consensus this time [slashdot.org] is still "Teoma sucks".

I still maintain that geek cred is more important than all the PR in the world. Slashdotters, love `em or hate `em, are representative of the Net's trendsetting geeks. They're the ones who recommend kewl things like Google, Napster, and ICQ (to name a few) to the non-geeks.

If the geeks don't like Teoma, its uphill climb gets a lot steeper. Without geek approval, Teoma's only hope for serious market share is a portal deal.

 

Marcia

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Msg#: 138 posted 8:32 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>I still maintain that geek cred is more important than all the PR in the world.

bauser, I'll steadfastly maintain that while the geeks are out there hustling for a buck to fill the bank accounts, their women are at home or in the office happily surfing the net looking to whip out that plastic as fast as the old man can fill the coffers.

Latest I read, 58% of online purchases were by women, and I bet there's more of them looking for toaster covers with chickens on them and where to buy burp cloths & nappies than they are for bios upgrades. And when they look, some will definitely Ask_Jeeves.

I'll send anyone the geeks if they'll send me the ladies. ;)

chiyo

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Msg#: 138 posted 8:53 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Nope if geek cred was the most important we'ld all be using ICQ, have Unix deskstops, know how to work programs with command lines, wear pocket protectors, all drink Coke, and there would be a 24 hour Star Trek channel.

It was "street cred" that got google where it is now. And basically a low level of competition as all competitors went for the strategy of coloring their results or pages with full blown commercials. Google has been presenting the most relevant and clean results on the Web for 3 years, as soon as AV started to become a portal.

Geek cred fails miserably against yuppies in suits with monopolies and money to throw around like MSN and AOL. MSN and AOL at present have search engine query result market share way beyond their real value. Google's competitive performance against these is highly impressive - the only reason is by sticking to the knitting - fast and relevant. Everything else, from their down home chatty PR, to those really silly logos are very secondary...

Dont forget the trail of litter of products adopted by Geeks that went nowhere. Its easy to forget those.

I dont see the geeks at slashdot talking much about relevant results, but more about silly slogans like "google rules". In the meantime Im sure that Google, however, is taking much more seriously the increasingly relevant results being returned by Teoma (and for that matter Fast as well) at each update. That's what the real mainstream consumer of SERP's out there really want...

Nick_W

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Msg#: 138 posted 9:08 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Marcia: Agreed!

My mum won't use anything else and she's an absolute sucker for a bargain ;)

Nick

IanTurner

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Msg#: 138 posted 10:25 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

The geeks at slashdot are out of touch with what 'normal' people want.

There are still those who like MSN because it has a newsfeed on the front page.

At the moment Google is the SE of choice of the 'power user' and recommendation is seeing its spread.

Teoma is producing results which equal Google's relveance off a much smaller DB - (Teoma needs to grow its DB)

Teoma is very easy to use and the refine option is good for the non-techie who doesn't want a page of advanced search options where they can't read the words let alone understand the meaning.

Teoma has an in with Ask portals in addition to the free standing Teoma site. I am already seeing hits from Teoma to match those of Webcrawler and Netscape (didn't one of those geeks mention using webcrawler as a search engine - hmm wonder how deep he's been into unix code for the last 4 years)

Given a year Teoma could be a competitor for Google - no matter how much the geeks dislike it because you don't have to enter your search strings in hex.

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