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My Browsing Problem for WebmasterWorld
Takes minutes to download each page

 9:54 am on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

For the past two weeks (approx), I have had serious download problems on WebmasterWorld. It is the only site I am having this trouble with. It was my default home page on all browsers ... Netscape, IE (several versions and Opera.

I have re-downloaded all browsers, logged out and back in again, changed home pages ... nothing helped. It takes anywhere up to three minutes to download each page. I am on an ADSL line.

Why would this happen suddenly on all browsers? Any ideas at all how I can fix it?

HELP!!! I need my WmW fix! Having already missed the pub conference ... well this just isn't fair!



 10:17 am on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

not much help but I'm using IE 5.5 with ADSL and I'm not having any problems


 10:21 am on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

I got the same problem when i got 56 k modem but now i got adsl and there is no problem now.



 10:43 am on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have IE6 plus ADSL, and on some occasions the download can take long, certainly for longer threads. I guess Webmasterworld needs to share its wealth over more PC's as Google does.


 10:47 am on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem. It's so big it takes ages to load each page. But it's always been like that.


 12:12 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well, until two weeks ago ... even long threads only took about 20 or 25 seconds to load. Now it is around three minutes for all pages and sticky mail is even longer.

I just responded to Marcia and told her that the time it took to load WmW, then go to sticky to get her message about moving this post and then reply ... I ate my breakfast and had (nearly) a whole cup of coffee! Is it that slow for anyone else? Why all of a sudden?


 12:23 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

I access WMW from home (cable, ie5) and work (56K dialup, Opera 6). From home, everything is very fast, but at work, I have noticed a very slow load time - with opera 6 you get a timer, and I've noticed pages taking 2 minutes+ to load. I thought it was just my ISP, because I could request the page, see the request go out on my external modem, and then notice no activity for those 2 minutes.

I don't remember exactly when it started happening, but for me it seems like 4 weeks.


 12:34 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm on modem in Chile, South America, and the pages load pretty fast for me.

I'm using IE6.


 12:38 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

loads quick for me on a dial up modem on cranky Bangkok lines, though very occasionally (once every month or so) it stops altogether for 30 minutes or chokes on loading the small icon! IE6, Opera, 3 year old taiwanese ibm clone laptop :)


 12:45 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Works fine for me and I'm on one of the southern most islands in the world at the moment.

Have your tracert'd Webmasterworld to see if there is a lag somewhere along the way?


 12:53 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Have your tracert'd Webmasterworld to see if there is a lag somewhere along the way?<

Haven't a clue what this is or how to do it ... any suggestions?


 12:55 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

OK Brett ... what did you do? Suddenly its loading like lightning on Opera 5 for Mac!!!

Yippee and thanks very much!

(Added) Unfortunately ... that didn't last long. (About one minute or less) Back to 2 to 3 minute load time again. Sigh.

(edited by: Liane at 1:03 pm (utc) on Feb. 25, 2002)


 1:01 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ohhhhh...you are on a Mac. Not sure how you can do it on there, perhaps another Mac user could chime in.

(edited by: msgraph at 1:12 pm (utc) on Feb. 25, 2002)


 1:06 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mac user Aaaaaar that explains it :) sorry had to get that before someone else


 1:23 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Many online tracert tools, one at www.samspade.org - just type in the host name

---added ooops---
That won't trace the route from your computer though.

look at
NeoTechCC [neotechcc.org] if you're running os9 or x


 1:36 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

When you figure out how to trace then trace WebmasterW and the other sites you have no problem connecting to. I imagine that you are taking a different path somewhere along the way to those sites with another one to WebmasterW. There is probably a loss somewhere on the path to WebmasterW.

Robert Charlton

 6:26 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I once had the same problem and Brett suggested I delete my cookies. Fixed the problem immediately. Now I try to clear them whenever I've read through all the new posts (pretty difficult, actually), and then, of course, I log on again.


 6:30 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Oh, I just remembered! Having StickyMail full up will slow it down. Deleting or sending a bunch home by email lightens it up and makes loading quicker, if I remember right. It's been a while, I'm way up there to a load of messages again, time to clear some out.

Do you guys have a lot of mail saved?


 6:42 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Today I was having aproblem with pages stalling at the image server... the whole html file would load, but the page wouldn't display, because it was waiting for a response from the server hosting all the site images.

<'scuse me, a ferret just ran by dragging a full sized empty paper grocery bag... Now he's trying to stuff it in his "hidey hole" under the end table.>

What does the status bar at the bottom of your prowser window say when the page won't load? If it always sais something about contacting "showcase.netins.net," turn off images in your browser preferences, and try loading the pages that way.


 7:14 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>waiting for a response from the server hosting

Massive server load. BarConf folks going at it like crazy after getting home and back online.

Liane, go Start-Run- and then type in:

tracert webmasterworld.com

(if it doesn't wait when finished, then go to a DOS prompt and type that command in. (usually marked as MSDOS somewhere on the start menu)

You should get back something like this:
Microsoft(R) Windows 98
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1999.

C:\>tracert webmasterworld.com

Tracing route to webmasterworld.com []
over a maximum of 30 hops:

5 46 ms 46 ms 47 ms a6-0-234.chcgil2-cr7.bbnplanet.net []
6 47 ms 49 ms 46 ms so-3-3-0.chcgil2-br1.bbnplanet.net []
7 48 ms 49 ms 48 ms p6-0.chcgil1-br1.bbnplanet.net []
8 48 ms 47 ms 48 ms p1-0.chcgil1-cr1.bbnplanet.net []
9 49 ms 51 ms 49 ms p10-1-0.onlinemllc3.bbnplanet.net []
10 49 ms 50 ms 49 ms webmasterworld.com []

Trace complete.


The bit we are interested in are the numbers with "ms" after them. That is the millisecond times it takes for a "packet" to send from your computer to webmasterworld and back.


 9:52 am on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well here's mine:

C:\WINDOWS>tracert www.webmasterworld.com

Tracing route to www.webmasterworld.com []
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms My IP
2 <10 ms 27 ms 14 ms nb11b01-fe1-0-0.nb.telenor.net []
3 123 ms 110 ms 137 ms nb20b61-pos4-0.nb.telenor.net []
4 137 ms 110 ms 110 ms nb16b01-pos0-0-0.nb.telenor.net [

5 27 ms 28 ms 27 ms nb16b11-pos1-2.nb.telenor.net []
6 123 ms 110 ms 124 ms nb10b02-pos5-0-0.nb.telenor.net []

7 124 ms 109 ms 110 ms nb10b01-pos5-0-0.nb.telenor.net []

8 110 ms 124 ms 123 ms POS2-0.GW8.NYC4.ALTER.NET []
9 123 ms 124 ms 110 ms 172.at-6-1-0.XR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET []

10 110 ms 123 ms 124 ms 0.so-2-0-0.XL1.NYC4.ALTER.NET []
11 124 ms 110 ms 123 ms 0.so-2-0-0.TL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET []
12 137 ms 137 ms 151 ms 0.so-5-1-0.TL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET []

13 151 ms 138 ms 137 ms 0.so-2-0-0.XL1.CHI2.ALTER.NET []
14 137 ms 137 ms 151 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XR1.CHI2.ALTER.NET []
15 380 ms 254 ms 156 ms 193.ATM7-0.XR1.CHI6.ALTER.NET []
16 137 ms 137 ms 165 ms 191.ATM10-0-0.GW2.CHI6.ALTER.NET []
17 138 ms 137 ms 151 ms UU-ds3.axxs.net []
18 151 ms 151 ms 137 ms

Trace complete.

(edited by: NFFC at 10:05 am (utc) on Mar. 1, 2002)


 10:27 am on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Liane, ask your isp if they will look at it. I really think there is something with your isp.


 9:16 pm on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Right as always Brett ... one phone call to my ISP did the trick! Thanks for the help. I feel like an addict who hasn't had a good fix lately.

Hmmmm ... now I have some catching up to do!

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