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What pushing you guys to do this?
need some advices from you guys.
Lowkei




msg:512306
 7:41 pm on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi all,

Need some advice from you guys..
I'm a student and in the mean time a webmaster of 2 websites .

I find it very hard for me to keep everything going (internet marketting, site&contents building, etc..) due to my don't know lazinees or other weaknesses within me. I feel I just can't get something to push me keep moving. I believe that I'm lack of some "energy"..

I'm actually aware that I'm in the best & very profitable business(affiliate,internet marketting..) in present and the future world.. But I just can't really move. I don't have the passion you guys having. May be as a student, I'm not yet feel the painness of lacking money(supported by my study loan n parents currently)...

Thus, mind that you guys share your passion with me? What are your target in this internet marketting game (perhaps besides earning a lot of money)? Can you guys tell me how you all set the goals for this game? What is behind you pushing you to be a better person/marketer?

Thanks in advance..Your advices do mean a lot to me.

Lowkei..the lost me.

 

Pfui




msg:512307
 8:40 pm on Mar 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

Passion comes from within. So if you don't like what you're doing, don't have energy or passion for it, then no matter how old you are, make the time to think about what excites you, about what you'd love to do -- and then go do it.

I got into the Web because 15 years ago, using a 9600-baud modem, then-new things called "tables" appeared to ooze off the page onto the screen. That was just freaky-cool enough for this middle-aged woman to wonder: "How'd they do that?" And that curiosity (or more loftily, a non-stop thirst for knowledge) has kept me intrigued, and paid, ever since.

Webmastering, particularly when it comes to personal sites, is frequently a self-taught endeavor, and very often solitary. So if you don't find geeking alone compelling, if you don't love doing it enough to get energy, satisfaction, even joy, from it, again now's the time to think about what you'd love to do, and learn how-to.

(Aside/OT: If you're feeling tapped out in all areas of your life, do get a check-up. Depression can be insidious and energy-sapping.)

So at the risk of sounding trite, 'find your passion, and follow it.' Or, as was the title of a popular book some years ago, "Follow Your Bliss." (That was a bit treacly, even for me:) And another: "Do what you love and the money will follow." Maybe not a lot of money, but if you love what you're doing, and you can afford it, how much money won't matter as much.

And if you're in this just for the money? That's cool. But that also means butt-in-chair whether you like it or not. (That's why they call it work:)

Good luck!

mvandemar




msg:512308
 2:59 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I do it for the chicks. Chicks LOVE webmasters! And programmers, too. It's amazing.

-Michael

steve40




msg:512309
 3:40 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Lowkei

When I started 6 years ago it was because I was looking for some information on the net and couldn't find it so I decided to develop something myself

At the time adsense did not exist and the only ways to make money were affiliate marketing / e-mail spamming / popups etc.

As I was a surfer I hated spam e-mail and I hated pop ups so I chose affiliate marketing to pay for the site

I set out with a target to earn equivalent to a minimum wage working for myself and when I achieved that I set a target of minimum hourly wage 24hrs per day 7 days a week and slowly increased my target

I work close to 80hrs a week on the same site still 6 years later and have no problems with the hours or work after 6 years I am still my own boss and have achieved my own personal goal .

Having worked in the Corporate world and having worked for myself I would still be happy with minimum hourly rate 24/7 allowing me to control my own life and destiny

steve

mm1220




msg:512310
 5:18 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hey Lowkei, have you ever seen the movie 'Wall Street'?

Money motivates most people here. It doesn't motivate everyone in life and if you're not motivated by money that doesn't make you a better or a worse person. Also entrepreneurial spirit pushes some and for such people money is 'just a way of keeping score'.

A lot of the people here started by sticking adsense on a hobby site and being surprised by the revenue it generated. Subsequently they tested, optimised and went on to setup new sites.

Lowkei




msg:512311
 7:40 pm on Mar 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for replying pals:)

Wow, Steve, you are really self-displined! May be I'm just abit naive thinking that life would be good in the future. It's hard for me to understand the hardness in the coorperate world without me gone through it. (I heard a lot from my friends though) But anyway, you are correct!

"Having worked in the Corporate world and having worked for myself I would still be happy with minimum hourly rate 24/7 allowing me to control my own life and destiny "

I will now set my goal to be the boss of my own upon my graduation:) Hopefully I can achieve it in a year timne! Having controlled over my life is irresistible. At least I can sleep & wake up at anytime I want as long as I finished my job on time. :p

"Set a goal and stick to it" is always my problem. I'm not firm enough. In another word, no self-displine and persistence. These are lessons I need to learn may be.

mm1220, no i didn't watch "wall street" before. Do you know any place that I can download the movie?:)

Thanks
Lowkei

youngkeen




msg:512312
 11:59 am on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

hi Lowkei
I am 19, and very ambitious unfortunatly i am in the same situation as you as much as i want to work and suceed, Lazyness usually gets the better of me.
Fortunatley for me i have a dad who pushes me in to doing work and having just moved out and having to fend for self is even more motivation, BUT and a very big but i have seen some webmasters figure's and belive me when you sit down and think "is it worth it?" you will know the anwser.
I am currently running 3 unsuccessfull websites, $90 in 4 months, but the more i work the more i earn, so you decide your destiny and good luck.
tom

Brett_Tabke




msg:512313
 9:09 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

> I do it for the chicks. Chicks LOVE webmasters!
> And programmers, too. It's amazing.

I am living proof that it's true. (eg, meet my wife and current mod of this forum right here on WebmasterWorld)

stevehbs




msg:512314
 9:34 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

LOL I am over 40 and still get lazy spells, it happens to all of us.

You said you were in affiliate marketing. Pick a few areas you really like and then I know this is gonna sound a bit nuts. Find a charity in that market (dont do gambling) Still build your site around the market but focus on 2-3 charities. With these 2-3 charities build sections on your site to review then and write articles about them always include a donate button to help them out.

You accomplish a few things this way.

1. You are helping good causes
2. You are creating new relevant content in your industry for your site.
3. You are exposing your site to other cool people in the industry in a non obtrusive manner.
4. I bet you might just get some links from those charities if you ask.

I take on one charity every 4 months within my areas and build upon it with the next two charities so by the end of a year all 3 charities are benefiting.

How does this motivate me? Guilt lol I feel like a dirtbag if I dont follow through. And it also feels great to help people. It is shocking how few non profits have no idea about internet marketing.

Sorry to ramble hope this gives you some ideas.

AlexK




msg:512315
 9:49 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

mm1220:
Money motivates most people here.

I am always amazed when people forget the basic advice of the ancients:
    "The love of money is the root of all evil"
Notice a couple of things: as the best example, it does not say "money is the root of all evil" (try saying that to your landlord, or the shopkeeper). The point is, "love of money" will not get you to any decent place and, as soon as you have some, the desire stops.

In any case, it is usually the absence of money that motivates people.

In my case, I realised that no employer was ever going to reward me for the work that I put in to do a decent job for our customers. To put it another way, I just could not stand working for somebody else anymore, and just had to make this work or go mad with frustration.

stevehbs




msg:512316
 10:04 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

"To put it another way, I just could not stand working for somebody else anymore, and just had to make this work or go mad with frustration."

Well put, I bet 90% of the people here felt that way.

I know I sure the heck did.

tedster




msg:512317
 10:44 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

My life long passion has been communication itself - especially the power of a clear, focused and even nuanced communication. This why I love web work -- it's a medium for communication that offers new possibilities and new challenges. It's the first area I've applied myself to that seems to "fire on all cylinders" for my particular make up.

I also like being more self-determined, but that is a secondary benefit. Whether it's the words themselves, the code, or even the website structure and how it interacts with the rest of the web, it's all communication to me, and that fires me up!

steve40




msg:512318
 11:27 pm on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Lowkei

It is good you are getting feedback from guys on here and have not asked the usual question of " HOW CAN I GET RICH QUICK AND NOT DO ANY WORK "

I suspect many of the successfull webmasters on this board could just let their websites run for a couple of years with little work and just carry on taking in the money but the reasons they do not may not be same as many believe

1 Pride in themselves
2 Pride in what they produce / manage / control
3 A need to succeed for their own self asteem
4 They actually enjoy what they do
5 Money / success / ability to support family and lifestyles

A good example is this Forum I am sure Brett could truly earn quite large sums by use of advertising / selling links etc. etc. . He has not done so which says a lot for his own philosophy and what his driving force is ( NOT MONEY ) as the main goal
and I think you will find a number of other webmasters on this board who pursue their own agenda for what they wish to gain from being their own boss , It is also possible many of those have spent time in the corporate world and now appreciate what working for themselves provides.

steve

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