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What the FOO?!
Food now on the FOO no-no list? What about the rest?
mivox




msg:517951
 8:55 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Guys, I don't think we want to get back in the recipe dumps of 2002 when when had dozens of food and recipe threads ;-)

Foo is for the tech related ;-)

[webmasterworld.com ]

You lock a recipe thread, while at the same time you've got thread about what to properly call ice hockey [webmasterworld.com] still open? Sports are somehow more tech-related than cooking?

What about all these other TOTALLY non-tech-related threads that were never touched?

[webmasterworld.com ] (Friday Word Game)
[webmasterworld.com ] (Adopting a baby)
[webmasterworld.com ] (Limericks)
[webmasterworld.com ] (non-tech Latin translation)
[webmasterworld.com ] (Fun cars)
[webmasterworld.com ] (Bands getting ripped off)
[webmasterworld.com ] (Superbowl predictions)
[webmasterworld.com ] (DG's baby goats)
[webmasterworld.com ] (Deep sea life found)
[webmasterworld.com ] <--(Star Trek cancelled, posted by Brett himself)

And that's only since Feb. 3rd...

...what's the deal? Sports, trivia and television is OK, but cooking isn't? Is it time to revise the "banned subjects" list for FOO and add "food" to religion, race, gender and politics?

 

digitalghost




msg:517952
 10:08 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does this mean you won't post your recipe for spruce beer?

p.s. every geek I know eats, figure a few of them might want a recipe so they don't have to eat Cup-O-Noodles every day

mivox




msg:517953
 10:24 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well... a) I won't know if it's any good for at least another three weeks, and b) I'm not going to bother starting threads if they're just going to get locked because of some new, unspoken rule.

But if you're interested, I'm sure I could find a way to slip you the recipe, either here or elsewhere. ;)

ncw164x




msg:517954
 10:36 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey mivox I am told you make a mean homebrew beer.

please post the recipe and at least give us chance to see how its made

please..... ;)

mivox




msg:517955
 10:59 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

please post the recipe

Well, if there's enough demand for it, surely it wouldn't get locked? I mean, maybe rabbit just isn't a popular enough dish...?

ncw164x




msg:517956
 11:21 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

it would be if you washed it down with a few pints of spruce beer ;)

mivox




msg:517957
 11:27 pm on Feb 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good point. Although I think something a little mellower would be better, like my Rye Ale.

Mardi_Gras




msg:517958
 12:32 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good luck fighting it - I agree with your point of view.

mivox




msg:517959
 1:08 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Fighting it? To fight it, I'd actually have to get an answer to this post in the first place.

That said, if you want members to think of you as a fair and reasonable "authority figure," rules need to either be applied consistently, or they need to be changed to reflect actual practice.

If FOO is for "tech-related" subjects only, then TV shows, sporting events, holidays, movie reviews, non-tech news article links, birth announcements, wedding announcements and the like (to name a few topics I've seen thriving in FOO in the past) must all be disallowed as well.

Some people's hobbies may be watching sporting events or SciFi movies and TV shows, which is fine. I generally don't watch TV or sports, so I avoid those threads. Other people's hobbies may involve cooking, and if your interests don't lie there, don't read those threads. That's how FOO used to work, anyhow...

...and judging from the level of participation from Mods and Members alike in the now-disallowed(?!) recipe threads, I'd say cooking enjoys at least as much interest among the WebmasterWorld crowd as the Superbowl does.

Mardi_Gras




msg:517960
 2:19 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> I'd say cooking enjoys at least as much interest among the WebmasterWorld crowd as the Superbowl does.

To me, things like the cooking threads have been the threads that help build a sense of community. I think your examples of inconsistencies in what is allowed are good ones.

Brett_Tabke




msg:517961
 2:56 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

The issues:

a) our tag line mission is news and discussion for the independent web professional. aka: the webmaster.

b) we wish to give existing members as much latitude as possible, but at the same time remain a tech/webmaster site.

c) we can't be usenet, yahoo groups, or even ivillage.
We simply don't have the require bandwidth or system investment available.

We can support a few cooking theads, a few farming threads, and even a few "how's the weather in Alaska". However, what do we do when we start to attract the professional cook, that simply wants to talk about cooking and has no idea what a webmaster is or does?

A some point along that lines, we have to roll back and get a little closer to tech related and webmaster related. There are plenty of cooking sites, and plenty of farming sites, but this one is about webmasters and running websites.

When I started Foo on SearchEngineWorld, it was started as a place where we could discuss about tech life that didn't really fall under other categories.

So, a couple changes will be made again to Foo (off active list, no post count for posters, and the majority of threads no indexed by se's)

Woz




msg:517962
 3:11 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmmm, I don't quite see the connection between the demise of Star Trek Enterprise and Webmastering.

But I do remember a chap called Chef-Brian, who turned into quite an expert in the affilate area with all the knowledge he gained here. Enough of an expert in fact that he eventaully quit his day job as a chef.

Big mistake BT. Big, Huge.

Onya
Woz

rmccollom




msg:517963
 3:20 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

What is going on with this place? I'm starting to feel like I'm living during the Holocast times?

Come on, lighten up a little.

mattglet




msg:517964
 5:37 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Brett, sorry dude, you're calling the wrong shot here.

When I started Foo on SearchEngineWorld, it was started as a place where we could discuss about tech life that didn't really fall under other categories.

You already have the above covered.

Got questions or comments regarding your site not covered in another board? [webmasterworld.com]

ncw164x




msg:517965
 8:24 am on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

what do we do when we start to attract the professional cook, that simply wants to talk about cooking and has no idea what a webmaster is or does?

So what would you of done if Captain Kirk had dropped in for a quick chat while on a mission to save the universe on the thread what you had started, would you of closed the thread or listened to his latest problems?

I am not a trekkie nor do I like the super bowl but I have got nothing against anyone who does enjoy these things, but likewise respect other peoples point's of view...

<added> If bandwidth is an issure try removing the crap and the noise from forum 3, that should save 1000 times more than a few threads in Foo will make </added>

nuevojefe




msg:517966
 8:56 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

If bandwidth is an issure try removing the crap and the noise from forum 3...

Or just remove the crap anyways. :-)

vkaryl




msg:517967
 9:17 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's Brett's site. It's his decision on this one. I was under the impression that his final point

So, a couple changes will be made again to Foo (off active list, no post count for posters, and the majority of threads no indexed by se's)

was already the way things were, but it's not unusual for me to be mistaken....

mivox




msg:517968
 9:32 pm on Feb 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

We can support a few cooking theads, a few farming threads, and even a few "how's the weather in Alaska". However, what do we do when we start to attract the professional cook, that simply wants to talk about cooking and has no idea what a webmaster is or does?

Red herring Brett.

A.) There aren't a ton of cooking threads in FOO at the moment. There was ONE post about cooking rabbit, and it was locked, with the false argument that it was locked BECAUSE Foo is for tech-related subjects, when about a third of the current active threads were in no way tech related.

B.) If FOO attracted professional cooks, it would in no way hurt the rest of the board, because the professional cook wouldn't be going over starting trouble in the Google forums.

C.) AND if all FOO threads are noindex, that could never happen, because the fearsome cooking threads would never show up in the SERPs in the first place.

So make FOO 100% noindex, and let us discuss our hobbies whether they personally interest you or not. Problem solved, everyone happy, the integrity of WebmasterWorld not threatned by the fact that it's members have lives outside the internet.

Macro




msg:517969
 2:02 pm on Feb 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

one rabbit, one horse...:)

limbo




msg:517970
 10:36 pm on Feb 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seems harsh to me. Cos you have something special in foo... rabbit dining, smelly feet, 100+ post about shaving.... do you you really want to cull the most creative side of WebmasterWorld?

I was going to start a non related thread about late winter travel, is it likely to get the same treatment?

pendanticist




msg:517971
 10:56 pm on Feb 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

When in Rome:

Hey, Macro. Yur Mailbox is full.
How's that for a techno-related foo post? ( no text)
[webmasterworld.com]

mivox




msg:517972
 12:53 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was going to start a non related thread about late winter travel, is it likely to get the same treatment?

I wonder how many other people are thinking the exact same thing about a whole bunch of other non-tech topics? Since I started this thread, I've heard (privately, obviously) from more than one person who's not feeling as "welcome" here because of this. FOO is one of the big parts of the "community" aspect of WebmasterWorld that made it really stand out from the crowd... All work and no play makes WebmasterWorld a dull boy.

@pendanticist: Love it! lol

lawman




msg:517973
 5:55 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was going to start a non related thread about late winter travel, is it likely to get the same treatment?

Only one way to find out. :)

jim_w




msg:517974
 6:59 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey, hey, hey, I have a pet rabbit, I would not talk about dog, parrot, (insert your pet here) recipe now would I? ;-))

HughMungus




msg:517975
 7:09 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

MarkHutch




msg:517976
 8:06 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'd say power to BT. This is his house and in my view, it's a good house or I would not have kept coming back for the past few years. I don't post as much as some of you folks, but I read what's here several times per day.

It's easy to complain about change. However, we are all webmasters here. If we don't like something, we are free to start our own forum and try to be as successful as BT. If you succeed, then more power to you.

incrediBILL




msg:517977
 8:12 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

a) our tag line mission is news and discussion for the independent web professional. aka: the webmaster.

Even Fty's electronics in CA sells food so the nerds won't starve to death and adult magazines to supplement their dating voids. I would seem feeding the nerds is a mission too isn't it? :)

Marcia




msg:517978
 8:24 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Guys, I don't think we want to get back in the recipe dumps of 2002 when when had dozens of food and recipe threads ;-)

Foo is for the tech related ;-)


Tech related stuff, got it. Like cars, barbeques and lawn mowers.

MarkHutch




msg:517979
 8:34 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wow! I wonder who's going to win this one? The hundred or so mad employees/customers or could it possibly be the CEO? We'll see. :)

Marcia




msg:517980
 8:39 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>Wow! I wonder who's going to win this one?

The men.

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