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Oh no! It's the Invasion of the Weekend Webmasters!
Rude, Crude and Occasionally Lewd- Oh, and Here's My URL...

 3:23 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

We're verging on the weekend, now. That's when so-called Newbies crawl out of the woodwork dropping url's, beating their chests like gorillas and generally behaving disrespectful when they aren't being generally off-topic.

I have a suspicion that a large number of this mob are neither Webmasters nor Professionals- I don't consider these people Newbies, I consider them "Never-bies" because they don't fit the mold of either Webmaster or Professional, or even Amateur.

Sorry if that sounds unfriendly, but last weekend's crowd reminded me of a rabble straight out of Mad Max, and made me feel like the Feral Boy with his boomerang running for dear life.

I'm happy for the Updated Google Forum Charter, the effort is sure to maintain a higher level of discussion. However this weekend, I'm going to be on my guard.



 3:40 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey martinibuster, great post! Now, can you write me a letter I can send to all my clients who shouldnít be newbies but are acting like it because of this linking hiccup with Google right now? Iím beginning to understand the need to roar a bit these days - itís utterly frustrating.


 3:41 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Cool down martinibuster :) i think the updated google forum charter will help restore some sanity to the proceedings.


 3:43 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>We're verging on the weekend, now.

Usually find the weekend quiter at WebmasterWorld.

I must keeo a wether eye open for these people tomorrow ;)


 3:44 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yep, funny!

Let's not forget though that some of these 'rude' guys and girls, once puppy trained, turn into upstanding members!

One CSS regulars first post (or nearly) was to ruin one of mine. They are now a well valued and well appreciated member...

Still, lil' buggers do need a slap don't they? ;)

<added for the british>Yes, I am.</added for the brittish>



 3:46 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

Good point Paynt ;)


 5:04 pm on May 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm embarrassed to say that I am sooo thankful for the new charter. I've pretty much given up reading the google forum lately because of all the noise. The embarrassment comes from the fact that I know I was one of those whinning and verbose posters (hope I was never rude, though).

Someone here (thank you, [....]) went out of their way, privately, to help me out and if not for them I might still be whinning. ;) Although some newbies may need a swift, but tender, kick in the keister once in a while, as Nick_W said, they can become "a well valued and well appreciated member... "

This board and [....] saved my life :) and I need to start giving back more often to help keep it racket free.


 12:57 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Still, lil' buggers do need a slap don't they?

You have a talent for reading between the lines! :) Y


 5:07 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

I guess this place is something special and it takes a 'swift kick' for 'some' to realise it. When they do they are often the first to offer the 'swift kick'....... LOL
For the last 6 months or so I have been going through a 'learning patience' thing (with help from members here too!)....
I think one must accept that along with the 'weekend webmasters' this place has picked up the usual intelligent and perceptive beings that make this place tick.
Just gotta remember that google isn't the end of the world.......


 6:07 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm a new-bie to WebmasterWorld so maybe I'm not qualified to comment, so here goes nuthin:

It takes all sorts, and the world is full of relativities.

Sometimes a 'swift kick' is required ... but that probably applies to all of us from time to time, new and old. (Not that I don't sympathise with the sentiments expressed)

I think one of the things that make WebmasterWorld special is how welcoming everyone is; no questions about whether you are a professional or a webmaster. Let's keep up that welcoming friendly community spirit!

(I know that none of the posts to this thread suggested being unfriendly, but if we're on our guard too much it may appear so)


 6:53 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Its Saturday morning in the UK, and I off looking for them in the forums, baseball bat at the ready :)


 9:06 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)


I joined last weekend. I think you are being rude.


 9:12 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi MotherE

He's not, trust me ;)
Just joshing is all, I'm certain martinibuster meant this post in a spirit of fun. We do have an enourmous growth rate here and for the veterans it can sometimes be challenging to wade through some of the newbie posts.

But, newbies become members and after getting a feel for the place 99.9% of them become highly valued members.



 9:18 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

hehe.. I hadn't made the weekend correlation, probably because in NZ my weekend runs a day ahead of most members... but now I think about it you're probably right.

Hi MotherE :) don't take it personally, I'm sure it's not directed at you The mods here are so good and fast you may not have noticed some of the rubbish that goes on here and there.


 9:18 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi MotherE. I'm sure martini-buster was not generalising to all new members! (and welcome along too and glad you are here).

I guess that the percentage of opportnistic posts vs. neighbourly and useful posts is higher (though maybe only slightly :)) for new members than "older members" who know the TOS and respect the value of the community and its informal norms. Thats all understandable and applies to all communities. And im sure that even among members who joined a week ago, the great majority are not rude, crude, or lewd!


 9:29 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi MotherE don't take it personally.

Also the last few weeks have been difficult for many of our members bcoz of the highly unpredictable changes going around in google.

[edited by: Marcia at 8:47 pm (utc) on June 4, 2003]


 9:41 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

sniff, sniff. OK.


 9:42 am on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Besides, the weekend isn't an influx of new users - tuesday is.


 2:37 pm on May 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi MotherE (nice nick...),

I certainly didn't mean to imply ALL new posters, just a small minority that seem to pop up on the weekends, misbehave, then are never heard from again.

As I said in my first post, last weekend was a little hairy because I came across a number of threads where people were erasing their posts, accusing others of spying on them, making rude slurs-

It's not about disagreements (ahem) (that's inevitable and to be expected), but rather about some people who don't really fit the mold of either "professional" or "webmaster." That's why we don't usually see them back.

I hope that with this post I haven't offended someone else (It's only inevitable, eh?)

Hi Brett, perhaps the quality of newbies is better on Tuesdays?


 5:12 am on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>>"...I certainly didn't mean to imply ALL new posters, just a small minority..."

And just to prove the point: Guess what day of the week Apr 13, 2002 was ;) MotherE, you are in good company ;)


 9:10 am on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

hi im really sorry but im one of those newbies or neverbies as someone else put it but i would really like to learn how to fix probs i come across if any of you out there would like to help i would be eternally grateful. right the problem im facing is 1# cannot remember password in out look express i've tried countless things to no avail.2#messages i send from msn address never seems to go through.
Needing help
Newbe in NZ


 11:19 am on May 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>messages i send from msn address never seems to go through

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I think Brett insists on a "proper" amail address to register. Its to stop drive bys signing up multiple accounts with hotmail, yahoo etc etc accounts.


 4:16 pm on May 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Rude, Crude and Occasionally Lewd <<

Maybe this is the sort of thing you were thinking about, and its Tuesday today ;)



 8:54 pm on May 27, 2003 (gmt 0)


The above example of yours and I saw an amazing thread where one user had deleted all of his comments and replaced it with a fullstop :(

OK - I am a new user too - and trying to be good and helpful to others :)

By The Way - Do users ever get banned - I was previously registered and I am sure I did nothing wrong but my member name became inactive, my joined date became Jan 1 1970 and my posts became nil - not a big deal but I wondered if I did anything wrong :(

Do WW dish out penalities too?


 3:23 am on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

The ruckus is almost always caused by new members. Too bad it gives them a bad name. Some guys are polite and a few even knowledgeable from the beginning.

Everybody here was new at some point.

>wondered if I did anything wrong
Probably not. Inactive members are purged from the system periodically. (Posting once in a while keeps you active.)

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