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wiskid




msg:497379
 4:59 am on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello,

Can anyone tell me anything about Voila.fr's "web francophone" (French web) search results? I know they have a directory, but it appears these search results don't depend on the directory. Do they spider the web themselves, or are they powered by another search resource?

Thanks.

 

louponne




msg:497380
 8:43 am on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

voila.fr is owned by France Télécom, also operating Wanadoo, so the same SE runs also on wanadoo.fr

Voila has a search database, and a "guide" - basically, there are two systems/submission services. Your site can be included in the basic database and show up on search results. It can also be perhaps included in the guide - it's now mainly a paid service. The guide is a yahoo-like directory of categorized sites. The advantage to being in that is that guide results show before se results.

avmgeo




msg:497381
 8:55 am on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Voila also displays PPC results from Overture.fr.

Sinner_G




msg:497382
 8:59 am on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

They have a bot called VoilaBot.

fr_cnx




msg:497383
 4:52 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

>that guide results show before se results.

Not true any more,
till 9 over 10 first results are overture sponsored links.

A+

spaidermen




msg:497384
 3:53 pm on Nov 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

What's the traffic share of Voilà?

littlemarcus




msg:497385
 5:34 pm on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

TOP 15 (Octobre 2003)
Outils de recherche % de trafic généré (Tendance)
1 - Google 64.57 % (+0.38)
2 - Yahoo! 11.60 % (-0.33)
3 - Voilà 9.05 % (+0.28)
4 - MSN 5.98 % (-0.5)
5 - AOL 3.55 % (-0.11)
6 - Lycos 1.14 % (+0.02)
7 - Altavista 0.92 % (+0.02)
8 - Francité 0.83 % (+0.25)
9 - Nomade 0.78 % (+0.01)
10 - Netscape 0.49 % (+0.15)
11 - Club Internet 0.44 % (+0.44)
12 - 9OnLine 0.13 % (+0.13)
13 - Ask Jeeves 0.09 % (+0.09)
14 - Tele2 0.08 % (+0.08)
15 - All The Web 0.07 % (-0.48)

Légende :
Stabilité du % du trafic ou changement inférieur à +/-0,2% par rapport au mois précédent.
Baisse supérieure ou égale à 0,2% par rapport au mois précédent.
Hausse supérieure ou égale à 0,2% par rapport au mois précédent.

source secrets2moteurs.com/barometre/2003-10/

[edited by: Rumbas at 11:01 pm (utc) on Dec. 11, 2003]
[edit reason] Url delinked as per TOS - Thanks! [/edit]

wiskid




msg:497386
 5:49 pm on Dec 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks littlemarcus. Great data!

Rumbas




msg:497387
 11:03 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld littlemarcus. Thanks for joining us :)

That some nice data you found there, it's been a while since I saw stats from France.

BTW, what would you say the most important French directories are these days?

littlemarcus




msg:497388
 4:39 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would say "Le guide du Web" from Voilà and of course yahoo.fr.

louponne




msg:497389
 10:26 pm on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

also:
msn.fr
dmoz.org (via google)

Rumbas




msg:497390
 1:41 pm on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Louponne, you mention MSN.fr.

What's your strategy for for MSN, now where Looksmart is out of the picture?

louponne




msg:497391
 11:31 pm on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, I simply submit directly:

go to msn.fr then click on "rechercher" in the main navigation menu then on "proposer un site"

SteveJohnston




msg:497392
 12:27 am on Dec 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi, I'm still confused by Voila.

The default results show up on the 'Web francophone' tab, which Google translates for me as the 'French speaking web'. Is this the Voila crawled database you refer to louponne? You then say that their 'Guide' results show up before the database, but if their 'Guide' is the 'Guide de Web' tab, this does not show up first when I look.

Finally, where then does the Web Mondail data come from?

Sorry to be so demanding, but I have a client who is indexed in the Web Mondail but does not appear in either of the two I mention here. I am happy to do the submissions recommended, but I'd just like to get my head clear about it all.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve

avmgeo




msg:497393
 12:53 pm on Dec 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

SteveJohnston,

Here is how I understand the voila results:

1. Web francophone. SERP's as crawled by Voilabot. Only contains pages in French. Overture.fr ppc results display at the top of the natural results.

2. Guide du Web. Results from the voila directory. I believe that before the agreement with overture the guide results were indeed displayed on the SERP's, as per louponne.

3. Web mondial, similar to 1. but for any language.

Hopes this clarifies a little. So if your customers' pages display only in the "Global Web" (web mondial), then it must be because the page is not in French, or the voila crawler was not able to identify that the page is in French.

SteveJohnston




msg:497394
 2:10 pm on Dec 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks avmgeo, that really clears it up.

Onwards and upwards.

Steve

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