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lazerzubb




msg:495155
 12:38 pm on Jul 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Have never seen a referrer from it before, so i don't know if it's new. I remember them winning a domain case with the previous owner of google.dk

And Alexa traffic seems to have rise sharply in the last few days.

ADDED:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Looks like i am far behind, but i wonder if they promote google.dk more since the trafficlever seems to have gone up very sharp the last few days.

 

rencke




msg:495156
 2:37 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Very interesting indeed. The default search is for the web, with radio buttons for "pages in Danish" and "pages from Denmark". Did my usual check for keyword "stockholm" for all three and noticed the #1 for "Pages from Denmark". A dot-com which has been under construction for a year now. How did Google figure that one out? Have they turned up kwd in url so much that nothing else matters? Time for Rumbas to put on his thinking cap for us!

Nick_W




msg:495157
 2:41 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Laz.

We noticed it yesterday too but thought it may have been like that for a while. It's about time we had a search worth while here in Denmark, odd about the default search though eh?

Nick

takagi




msg:495158
 2:43 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

To qualify for "Pages from <country>", you need a domain with the right ccTLD (Country Code Top Level Domain; in this case '.dk') or the site must be hosted on server with an IP address known to be in that country.

Hagstrom




msg:495159
 3:27 pm on Jul 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

so i don't know if it's new.

New, compared to the age of the Universe ;)
I have an entry in my logs from 12th July.

odd about the default search though eh?

It was even odder the first week. The button for selecting Danish pages was labelled "sider på engelsk" (i.e. "pages in English") :)

Rumbas




msg:495160
 7:59 pm on Jul 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

>I have an entry in my logs from 12th July

Seems about that time they launched it. If you type in google.com from Denmark you get redirected to google.dk, but with "worldwide" as default.

Rencke I have your site coming up as number 2 and with my knowledge of links pointing to your site, I'd say it's from anchor text and themed PR from relevant directory cats.
I have your site coming up in the top 10 for one other very relevant keyword as well.
One heck of an seo you have there ;)

I agree though, it's VERY interesting that we now can seperate the Danish Google traffic and compare it to the other Danish SEs and directories. I have a feeling that some of the well known brands/sites will face some rather harsh facts based on this. I'll post some stats later when we have collected a larger amount of data. I can already say that Google is HUGE in Denmark..

Hagstrom, funny thing is also that they have a little trouble with the Danish version of Pages in Faroe, which they translate to "Google.dk i: Færøsk". Directly translated that would be "Pages on Faroe" - should be "Pages in Faroe", right? ;)

Anyway nice that they now offer that option [webmasterworld.com] as well.

Hagstrom




msg:495161
 10:41 am on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

Directly translated that would be "Pages on Faroe" - should be "Pages in Faroe", right?

Right, both are examples of too literal (robotic) translations. Maybe they have used Google's "Translate a web page"-service ;)

Rumbas




msg:495162
 12:08 pm on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Maybe they have used Google's "Translate a web page"-service

LOL, good one. Funny though that they have translated the rest of their site pretty well.

Rumbas




msg:495163
 1:19 pm on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

I compiled some stats from a rather large site where I'd say the rankings are similar; July so far:

Google, US --- 35.33%
Google, DK --- 16.12%
MSN, DK --- 14.99%
Jubii, DK --- 14.35%
Yahoo, DK --- 9.45%
Eniro, DK --- 4.05%
TDC Online --- 2.68%
Yahoo.com --- 0.87%
AltaVista, DK --- 0.58%
Google, DE --- 0.32%

Google.dk already taking a large slize of the pie. It will be interesting to see a full month with Google.dk

claus




msg:495164
 1:59 pm on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

allright, let's see the numbers. Here's the same period for another danish - general interest - site:

google.com: 43%
google.dk: 22%
msn.dk: 8%
eniro.dk: 4%
TDC Online: 2%
dk.yahoo.com: 2%
kvasir.no: 2%
dk.altavista.com: 1%
google.de: 1%
myway.com: 1%
altavista.com: 1%
yahoo.com: 1%
eniro.se: 1%
se.yahoo.com: 1%

(interestingly, there's no sign of jubii even though the site is registered there and has been so for many years - i've never even considered optimizing for jubii... is there such a thing? ;) ).

/claus

Rumbas




msg:495165
 2:10 pm on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

That's interesting Claus. Thanks. Some of your numbers are quite similar to mine (TDC, Eniro). Really shows that the big G will send you heaps of traffic if you manage to get a site indexed well.

>optimizing for jubii... is there such a thing?

Well yes, I do believe so. It has something to with cash though (and plenty of it) ;)

claus




msg:495166
 3:35 pm on Jul 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's nice being able to compare and i don't mind sharing info ;)

>> the big G will send you heaps of traffic

Actually, it's almost scary. For Eniro.se + Eniro.dk + Kvasir.no i have a total of 7% (these SE's are powered by G as well, and so is TDC Online, Yahoo, and myway.com). The non-G traffic amounts to MSN and Altavista only it seems (= 10%).

>> It has something to with cash

I see they have a minimum of 430 Euros per month (DKK 3K) - no way i'm going to pay that. Anyway, it's a crazy thing. For my most important keyword i'm on page 10+ in their standard SERPS (i didn't bother to look further; i'm #6 at Lycos.com), but i do have the #3 position (of 326,000 (rounded to thousands)) when using their "super søger" (Super SE). Unfortunately this is not the default.

/claus

Rumbas




msg:495167
 10:13 pm on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

>I see they have a minimum of 430 Euros per month (DKK 3K)

Nah, that's no really right. It's for a year and once you're in, you only pay anually for extra kewyords, long descriptions etc. BUT still a rather spicy fee, but in most cases worth the money.

Standard serps is their own, that's where you pay to be. Their Super SE is also home-grown and compiled from crawling sites that are in their directory. Worldwide serps are FAST.

>Actually, it's almost scary

Agreed. Put all the SE's together that are powered by G and you have a frightening large slize of the total traffic.

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