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Hotbot Europe now with FAST results
No more Inktomi
boblington

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Msg#: 554 posted 10:24 am on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

[hotbot.co.uk...] appears to be now taking Alltheweb feed but I can still find Inktomi pages in the index. Haven't seen any press releases regarding this. Can anyone shed light on this please?

 

perkoch

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Msg#: 554 posted 1:18 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

It's definitely Fast. There is even a Fast logo on the results page.

heini

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Msg#: 554 posted 1:25 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yup, Hotbot.de, Germany also shows Fast.
Hotbot.com still is directhit.

Great thing about Hotbot/Fast: Listings show the dates of indexing. Check it out!

Good find Boblington

lazerzubb

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Msg#: 554 posted 1:34 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

>>Great thing about Hotbot/Fast: Listings show the dates of indexing. Check it out!

Evreka have done this for ages.

heini

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Msg#: 554 posted 1:40 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

>evreka
Never really used Evreka, thanks Lazer.

What strikes me as funny here is I had the suspicion Hotbot would at some point just got shut down.
Actually changing partners now doesn't necessarily support that theory.

Wow - when was the last time I saw Hotbot in my referrals....

lazerzubb

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Msg#: 554 posted 1:43 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Lycos owns HotBot right.
Lycos Uses FAST

HotBot used Inktomi.

Lycos = $$$----- big -

My guess is that Lycos pays less for using FAST than Inktomi since they already have a contract with FAST.

So there is still a chance Heini.

boblington

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Msg#: 554 posted 1:56 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

well, another one (Inktomi) bites the dust! Is this not unusual in that 'most' engines announce this kind of transition, especially after the FTC recommendations concerning informing the general public being informed of where listings come from?

To change the subject slightly, anyone know when Yahoo are renewing ( or not) the Google contract?

jeremy goodrich

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Msg#: 554 posted 3:42 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Is this not unusual in that 'most' engines announce this kind of transition, especially after the FTC recommendations concerning informing the general public being informed of where listings come from?

Actually, look through the forums, and we'll all expecting FAST to launch the same type of problematic program as INK: XML based PPC.

However, perhaps if they can continue to acquire new places to show their real results, they will be less eager to jump on the bandwagon of the most recent ship to begin sinking fast? (INK started the whole mess, anyway).

My expectation is to see Hotbot.com follow suit. Using INK anymore, anywhere, doesn't make any sense AT ALL.

heini

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Msg#: 554 posted 3:51 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well I tend to agree with Lazer here. We had speculated on Hotbot switching to Fast months ago.
The reason why this caught me by surprise is rather that Hotbot from what I can see is not promoted whatsoever.
Adding the fact that Lycos Europe is financially not doing well, and rather losing marketshare than gaining I can't really see what this is good for.

XML feed...well that is a dangerous route to take. I don't expect anyhow any of the major engines not going there, with the possible exception of Google.

klaus

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Msg#: 554 posted 4:16 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

My guess is that Lycos pays less for using FAST

Well, that's what Lycos Europe told me today. But they say, Inktomi may have a chance in the future.

I assume, because Lycos Europe isn't Terra, only european HotBot sites switch to FAST.

markd

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Msg#: 554 posted 5:46 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Whatever they are doing it isn't working at the moment!

I've just checked out keyphrases in HotBot.co.uk where I had straight No.1's and am finding the same spam page from the same site with no relevance whatsoever to the phrase!

There is some kind of 'tracker' looking description - just code and nonsense. I sincerely hope this is just some kind of beta error.

I am personally still finding Fast a difficult nut to crack, so no joy from me in this change!

Tor

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Msg#: 554 posted 5:51 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Lycos owns HotBot right. Lycos Uses FAST

Lycos is also a substantial shareholder in Fast...

edit_g

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Msg#: 554 posted 8:22 am on Sep 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

"Wow - when was the last time I saw Hotbot in my referrals.... "

Exactly... That sentence sort of sums it up really.

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