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Resubmit to ODP under a different category
3 months and still not listed
tilt




msg:479814
 10:52 pm on Feb 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

I submitted my site to the ODP several months ago and it's still not listed yet. The category has two editors, but it was a shopping category. Is it hard to get a new listing into a shopping category?

Now I'm thinking of resubmitting to the arts:crafts:jewelry:artists category, but that has no editor.

Another possibility is to submit to a home:consumer information: category. Part of my site has "how-to" or "how I make" kind of information which would be relevant here. However, the rest of my site offers stuff for sale. Should I submit the "techniques" sub-page of my site? Should I resubmit the index home page to another relevant category that has no editor? Should I resubmit the index home page to the shopping category? Should I just wait 3 more months and check back?

 

Laisha




msg:479815
 11:59 pm on Feb 3, 2002 (gmt 0)

Is it hard to get a new listing into a shopping category?

It is harder than, say, Regional, but not impossible. You might want to read the Shopping FAQs [dmoz.org] and/or the Shopping Guidelines at the top of the Description [dmoz.org].

Since it offers jewelry for sale, you should submit it to the appropriate Shopping subcategory.

If the informational part of the site is truly loaded with useful information, particularly if that sort of information is not available elsewhere on the internet, I would submit that section to the appropriate non-Shopping subcategory.

Ahtough there is no description for Arts/Crafts/Jewelry/Artists, the description for Arts/Crafts/Jewelry specifically states "This category is for general jewelry sites that Do Not sell their products from their web pages."

Home/Consumer_Information is for product information which helps consumers make informed purchasing decisions. This would include sites which contain advice on buying and repairing jewelry, advice on buying diamonds, or buying guides.

tilt




msg:479816
 7:03 pm on Feb 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

Laisha,
Thanks for the reply. I did submit to the appropriate shopping category. I don't know why it should take 3+ months and still no listing. Now I'm having doubts as to whether the shopping category is appropriate.

Often what makes a website interesting is the fact that the site incorporates a variety of information. In the case of an artist, people are interested in the artist's background and philosophy; they're interested in what inspires the artist; they like to know about the techniques used to create the art; they want to see past examples of the work; and they want to be able to buy what is currently available. It's not the same as buying toilet paper. :)

ebgreen




msg:479817
 2:34 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Contact the editor directly or move up to the next highest ODP category and contact that editor.

Laisha




msg:479818
 3:14 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I don't know why it should take 3+ months and still no listing.

Because Shopping is inundated with submissions, a huge number of them pure and simple spam. That can cause several problems, the most prominent being that editors who deal with vast numbers of spam tend to be more critical of sites and have a higher threshold for what they consider useful content. Other problems include, but are not limited to:

1. Submissions often get buried;
2. Submissions sometimes get deleted with spam;
3. Editors get burned out and don't log in for long peroids of time.

While three months is a long time to a submitter, it is not over-long for the Shopping category. I would simply resubmit the site with a note that you're not sure what happened to the original submission. I probably wouldn't email the Shopping editor at this point, as they're probably seriously overwhelmed already.

(edited by: Laisha at 4:00 pm (utc) on Feb. 6, 2002)

ebgreen




msg:479819
 3:30 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

I probably wouldn't email the Shopping editor at this point, as they're probably seriously overwhelmed already.

It depends on the popularity of the search term as to whether you should send an email to the editor.

Mike_Mackin




msg:479820
 3:33 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

>It depends on the popularity of the search term as to whether you should send an email to the editor.

what?

ebgreen




msg:479821
 3:41 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

If the search term is not a popular one, then the editor is not getting flooded with emails. I converse with my editor on a regular basis and he says that he only gets a few emails a day.

Sorry for the confusion.

Laisha




msg:479822
 3:58 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

If the search term is not a popular one, then the editor is not getting flooded with emails.

Search terms have nothing whatsoever to do with ODP or the ODP structure.

You may have search terms confused with categories. Editors work in categories, not search terms, and their email is going to be --generally speaking -- about those categories.

Your friend is probably in a slow category, ebgreen. Shopping is not a slow category, hence my recommendation about email.

ebgreen




msg:479823
 4:13 pm on Feb 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

He is in a shopping category and I meant to say category and not search terms. My apologies.

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