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DMOZ editor just reviewed my site..!
ideavirus




msg:475234
 7:38 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hii all,

I just now checked out..and found that...my site submitted for the additon into DMOZ directory...got reviewed...!
The review was done yesterday...!

How long after the review...will it take for the inclusin...??..will they intimate me if the site gets included..or not..??

Thanks in advance..!
Any thoughts..??

:)

 

Marcia




msg:475235
 7:57 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

ideavirus, I also caught a site reviewed a while back, and asked about that here:

[webmasterworld.com...]

(edited by: Marcia at 7:58 am (utc) on Jan. 22, 2002)

Ove




msg:475236
 7:58 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi

They will not let you know if the site will get in you will have to check that out by yourself.

If the site is good you will be in the index very soon.

/Ove

ideavirus




msg:475237
 9:57 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Marcia..thanks for the pointer..I just checked it out...!

I have read/heard..that..if the site gets selected for inclusion into the directory...if not they will not let you know..but i am not sure...!

Hoping for the best with DMOZ..:)..Good luck to others also..whose sites got just reviewed..!
Anyone have any experiences...??

Thanks again...!!

angiolo




msg:475238
 10:08 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

My experience is that usually Editors do not inform you about the inclusion in the directory.

You have to check yourself!

As soon as your site got reviewed (and the site is good) you will be in the index very soon (as Owe said).

ideavirus




msg:475239
 10:27 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hii again,

Okay, if the site is rejected this time..how long should i wait before i re-sub,it again..??

Also..a few pages on my site are yet to be designed..so the links to those pages...are broken...:(..will those broken links be a reason enuf for not inclusion..??

what other aspects i shud look into..before submitting again..!

Sorry if these topics are already discussd..just give me the pointers...!

Thanks in advance..!

(edited by: ideavirus at 10:37 am (utc) on Jan. 22, 2002)

Ove




msg:475240
 10:31 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

They dont like when you resubmit i had wait for a very long time before i resubmit. You could read about that at dmoz.org

/Ove

angiolo




msg:475241
 10:49 am on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

> Also..a few pages on my site are yet to be designed..so the links to those pages...are broken...>

This is a rule of tomb for any Directory listings:
do not submit sites that are not ready!

Have a look around here. You can find useful tools:

[searchengineworld.com...]

paynt




msg:475242
 12:16 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

If you have any broken links or links to pages that lead to under construction or obviously incomplete information, one of two things will probably happen.

1. If the editor likes the site they may store it in unreviewed and come back to check on it next time around. If it's ready then they'll probably list it.

2. You'll get a note that says something about broken links, incomplete site or such and it will be deleted.

Another thing that happens is the editor may visit the site and determine it belongs in a different category than the one you submitted to and sometimes that means another wait for review by another editor.

Again a reminder, because the wait is so long and the editors time becomes so precious, do not submit a site with any broken links, including images.

gethan




msg:475243
 12:21 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

> My experience is that usually Editors do not inform you about the inclusion in the directory.

This is currently one of the biggest failings with the ODP, you don't get informed on inclusion, why on rejection etc etc.

The reason is very simple - the editor would have to do all of this manually using an email account that they have setup. So they don't - they're just volunteers with day jobs like the rest of us. In fact it would be bad if they did, entering into a personal correspondance with every submital would cause no end of problems.

To fix this the ODP needs a little addition that sends an auto email with "Congrat's your site was included in category Y" each time a new site is added, or "Sorry your site has been rejected due to [simple reason]".

The email should be anonymous to stop arguments and flamings of editors. I feel that this would help stop lots of criticism and bad feeling towards the ODP. There should be a complaints review process - but also due to the work involved it should be able to blacklist certain emails and sites.

This isn't a hard piece of code to do, on its own - but when you take into consideration the massive volumes, dedicated email servers, bandwidth, and integrating it within the existing system it does need some serious effort. I guess no one at the mo has given it high enough priority to invest the resources needed - *sigh*.

bird




msg:475244
 12:40 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

1. If the editor likes the site they may store it in unreviewed and come back to check on it next time around. If it's ready then they'll probably list it.

2. You'll get a note that says something about broken links, incomplete site or such and it will be deleted.

3. Most likely, the editor will just delete a submission of the site that has too many broken links and go on with editing others (the guidelines prohibit the listing in this case). Why waste the editor's time and effort if the submitter wasn't ready to invest his own?

paynt




msg:475245
 1:19 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well, in museums particularly or really good informational sites I will hold on to a site and check back. I wouldn't count on every editor to do this but I do see sites sitting in unreviewed with notes suggesting the editor was holding it until it's complete. You'll unlikely find a business editor doing this. My year in business was a totally different experience than my less stressful categories now.

By note I meant the notes on the editing page not a note to the submitter. I have written to folks though about problems with their site. Particularly if I think it would make a good contribution to a category and it just has a few problems. Again, business categories are a whole different situation.

In business the editor has an endless supply of sites coming in for review but in a region where you may have several small towns with only one or two listings, every listing counts. I actually go out and look for sites to list now which is totally different than trying to keep up with the business submissions.

Mike_Mackin




msg:475246
 1:29 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

what paynt said

My year in Shopping: Books was hell

ideavirus




msg:475247
 2:11 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hii again,

Thanks for all your valuable replies...!

My site is basically a content one..yet have some affiliate links related to the theme of the content...here I would like to know..If this site would be considered commercial or non-commercial...??

Also...does...the description and the title play any role in getting selected..??..lets say the title and the description are relevant, but very ambitious ones...making them a bit UNREAL...what happens then..??

Thanks in advance..:)

Mike_Mackin




msg:475248
 2:16 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

"They should not be promotional in nature. Submitting a promotional description rather than an objective, well written description may significantly delay your site from being listed or prevent your site from being listed at all."

[dmoz.org...]

paynt




msg:475249
 2:39 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

What Mike said.

In editing I could almost say I always make the title the name of the business or the name of the site as in what's in the logo. As a business editor I learned to always title the site with the business name and that's actually how I often found duplicates, maybe in the same category, if I was cleaning up a new category I took on.

bird




msg:475250
 2:40 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

lets say the title and the description are relevant, but very ambitious ones...making them a bit UNREAL...what happens then..??

What happens is that someone will have to write new ones, as it is against the editing guidelines to list a site with an "a bit UNREAL" description. You're causing additional (and ultimately unneeded) work for your friend the editor this way, which is the main cause for the potential delay mentioned in Mike's citation.

In an ideal world, each submitter would write a perfectly informative and factual description of the site content, and the editor could just say "thank you" and hit the accept button. I think it has happened to me twice in my two years of editing, and one of those two had already been pre-edited and forwarded by another editor... ;)

ideavirus




msg:475251
 3:13 pm on Jan 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hii again,

Two editors here...I am lucky..Thanks chief..

Well...
Actually the descrption is 1.Informative
2.Not mis-Leading
3.( Very )Ambitious..again that depends from person to person..

I said it might be a bit UNREAL b'cos...i had posted my site for review in one of the other forums...and one of the senior members there opined it is a bit ambitious...and hence i happen to mention that...again that perception might vary from person to person....!

bird..i understand that when you say...make the Editors job as simple as possible...

okay what about the commercial or non-commercial thingy..??..any ideas..

bird, paynt...Have you come across titles or descrptions which you happen to classify them as very ambitious...??...if so how did you personally handle them as an Editor for DMOZ..??

Thanks again...:0

skibum




msg:475252
 1:09 am on Jan 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

It's simply not worth it IMHO to submit things that don't adhere to the guidelines. As an editor, if there are sites that follow the guidelines and don't require editing, they will almost always get reviewed and listed first.

Submissions in which it is obvious the submitter has not read the guidelines or even attempted to follow them will generally sit there until the queue in the category gets pretty low.

Particularly in business categories, submissions are not in short supply. It is to everyones advantage to submit a title and desc the conforms to guidelines or is at least close.

As Paynt mentioned, if you are submitting to a more leisurely category that the editor might maintain as a hobby, the editor may be more willing to work with submissions however they come in.

Submit to ODP as if you were coughing up $300.00 for a YAHOO! submission. While you won't lose a $300.00 submissions fee if the site is not accepted, delaying your acceptance to ODP, Google directory and everywhere else that uses ODP data may cost much more than $300.00 in lost business.

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