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ODP can't search?
Can please explain
zechariah




msg:482023
 3:01 am on Oct 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

Can someone explain to me why I can't search by URL for an indexed URL that I've gotten in lately.
But for other sites I can do a URL search which are already in for quite some time.Is there an algo for ODP although I know it's human edited -but how about search & indexing?Care to enlighten me.Thanks

 

ettore




msg:482024
 7:28 am on Oct 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

When you get a site listed (or updated) in any category, it appears on the public side in a matter of hours (sometimes minutes), and is added in the next RDF dump, which is updated and released twice a week for download.

The internal (ODP) search index is rebuilded twice a week (but sometimes once, and we've seen instances of once every two weeks).

You can therefore have a site listed in a category, appearing in the RDF, but still not searchable by URL, title, or description keywords on ODP.

Does this answer your question? :)

zechariah




msg:482025
 8:09 am on Oct 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks Ettore for that insight -I read that you are one of the editor in ODP right?- in the other search engine forums.May I ask what's RDF dump.So then I'll have to wait for maybe 3 weeks for my new site to be searcheble by category & all.& also you mentioned can even be listed even within a few minutes after submission?- that is if lucky right?

brownsmurf




msg:482026
 4:10 pm on Oct 3, 2001 (gmt 0)

The RDF dump is basically the ODP data which is picked up by search engines to use.

For more information check out:

[dmoz.org ]

kfander




msg:482027
 1:32 pm on Oct 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

>> When you get a site listed (or updated) in any category, it appears on the public side in a matter of hours (sometimes minutes), ... <<

And sometimes several weeks. For reasons unknown to me, I've had sites that are in the directory not show up on searches within the ODP, even while searching on the root domain itself, for several weeks, even after it had begun to appear on searches of downstream clients. As the ODP is not intended to be used as a search engine in its own right, its own engine appears to have some glitches.

Jag




msg:482028
 4:56 pm on Nov 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

I submitted a site yesterday afternoon and an editor visited my web site at 8.30 PM. But I don't see my site being added to my suggested category. I looked at other possible categories too in case he\she moved me somewhere else.

Does this mean that my site is rejected or it takes some time to show in categories. Just to be clear, I am not taking about search results.

brownsmurf




msg:482029
 5:07 pm on Nov 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

No all it means is that someone looked at your site, it does not mean that it was necessarily rejected. generally when a site was submitted to a category which was not its optimal home, it is moved and may sit in unreviewed for some time, depending on editing activity there.

Jag




msg:482030
 5:46 pm on Nov 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

But does it mean that it's been rejected for that submitted category?

bird




msg:482031
 6:13 pm on Nov 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

all it means is that someone looked at your site

But does it mean that it's been rejected for that submitted category?

Please understand brownsmurf's answer literally. All we can really tell for certain from the information you gave us, is that someone took a look. For what they did after that, your guess is as good as ours. You'll just have to wait until your listing appears somewhere on the public side, which still may take an arbitrary amount of time.

As I've said in another thread, you should never be in a hurry when submitting to the ODP. ;)

andrey_sea




msg:482032
 6:04 pm on Nov 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

Don't believe all this ODP hype. They simply have a crappy search functionality. I have a site in ODP that has been there for at least 3 years (not 3 weeks ;) ) and cannot find it using ODP or Google Directory search using "http://www.site.com" or "http://site.com" or even using its keywords listed in the listing! What a joke of a search!

I would say it is easier to find something in ODP browsing the categories, rather than using their search functionality.

brownsmurf




msg:482033
 8:27 pm on Nov 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

<I would say it is easier to find something in ODP browsing the categories, rather than using their search functionality. >

and indeed that's why the D stands for Directory in ODP.

Laisha




msg:482034
 9:35 pm on Nov 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

>...using ODP or Google Directory search using "http://www.site.com" or "http://site.com" or even using its keywords listed in the listing!

Google does not take an extension in a regular search, so you would check to see if it's included by typing this: site

In ODP, you drop both the http:// and the www. and simply search on this: site.com

I've not had it fail, anyway.

andrey_sea




msg:482035
 10:09 pm on Nov 7, 2001 (gmt 0)

Well that is really intuitive, Laisha :)
You have to be a meta to know how to use ODP search functionality? :)

Anyway the verdict stands, it fails even when I search site.com

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