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what is the use of directory site?
how did you make money out of it?
guoqi




msg:475129
 1:50 pm on Jul 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I own several directories, I have no idea whether I would like to continue it or not? There is no revenue I can generate from them, but it does take a lot of my time to maintain them!

What is the future direction of direcotry site? How could you generate revenue out of it?

 

Event_King




msg:475130
 12:47 pm on Jul 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

The future of directories all depends on what the Search companies are doing.

Quality portal sites are the future, but will require deep pockets and very hot ideas to keep ahead of everybody else. Who knows what the future holds - speculation is pointless without thorough promotion to test what works and what doesn't, which costs major cash. Then and only then will you discover what works.

The majors have the hold currently...... But it only takes 1 bad judgement call aimed at the public, and then wooosh - they can go bust. I think ad space is way too expensive these days, and most simply can't afford to keep paying these amounts to stay in business, so will have to seek cheaper ads elsewhere.

forfalskning




msg:475131
 1:59 pm on Jul 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

You may wish to adjust your view on the other posting listing how you select a directory.

You wrote: "4. fee. only free ones are good."

Revenue isn't going to amount to much having free listings or just trying to offer ad space. You may wish to adjust your business model to how some of the other directories are doing it. Take a look at Joeant.com, Skaffe.com, WowDirectory, etc.

They all offer a Free Option, but also make revenue via their listing services. While none are as major as Yahoo, Dmoz, etc. They quickly became viewed as must list options via good marketing and fast service. Take a look at your own marketing and decide what improvements you need to make. Target an audience that will make you revenue.

Event_King




msg:475132
 2:51 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

You may wish to adjust your business model to how some of the other directories are doing it

What do YOU mean by business model? Are you suggesting that he copies skaffes site etc?

forfalskning




msg:475133
 3:44 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

By business model, I mean the way of doing business not copying the site. Take a look at the successful directories out there that are making money and determine why they are. Figure out how to incorporate their style of features into your own.

For example: (and keeping this very brief)

Yahoo
Portal features for traffic, yearly subs., SE augmentation, diverisfied revenue resources via hosting, mail, etc....

Skaffe
Community, free by editing, free hosting for editors, some portal features, free banners for editors, hosting revenue, vertical marketing via Wow and Sporge.com, etc...

Joeant
Community, free option by editing, site profile pages, featured sites, editor contests, etc...

WowDirectory
Free option, fast service, free email, free hosting, large topic structure, some portal features, resource list for SEOs, etc...

Event_King




msg:475134
 9:13 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Problem with that is apart from Yahoo and Business.com, we can't be sure that any of them make that much. I could say mine makes #*$!xxxx per year and you wouldn't know if it was true or not.

Most remarks about directory profits are BS matey, started by people that have nothing better to do than to get chinese whispers moving. The directory owners are the only ones who know exactly how much they pull in every period, and it's unlikely they are going to disclose that information. I certainly wouldn't.

This is the problem with the web, a good designer can make an expensive looking site for a few thousand, and everyone jumps on it assuming that it makes millions.

PatrickDeese




msg:475135
 9:21 pm on Jul 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've had a directory for several years.

All I can say is that it makes more than enough to make it worth maintaining.

guoqi




msg:475136
 9:04 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

so how did you make money from it? paid submission?

vitaly




msg:475137
 11:37 am on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

One possible way of making money from a directory is:

1) Ask the sites you include to put a backlink and thus gain organic traffic through indexing of these links

2) Monetize that traffic with adSense or something else

ska_demon




msg:475138
 12:09 pm on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

My directory is now nearly 5 months old and makes enough money to make it worth maintaining. It is a niche directory and all listings are FREE! FOREVER!

My money is made by mixing up some affiliate links within the directory and also a bit of contextual advertising.

Ska

pathak




msg:475139
 12:25 pm on Jul 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you have good content both in quality and quantity then there should not any problem in getting visitors. And as vitaly already said that you should make money out of these visitors.

If you are serious about a change in your directory's future then you should also do some technical, visual and SEO work.

Event_King




msg:475140
 5:56 pm on Jul 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Pretty pictures? Stunning graphics?

dataguy




msg:475141
 1:32 am on Jul 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Most remarks about directory profits are BS matey, started by people that have nothing better to do than to get chinese whispers moving.

That's right, so there's no need for anyone to try to start any new directories. Nothing but a waste of time and effort. My advice is to move along, there's nothing worth seeing here. (Just please don't let my employees get wind of this, they just might start to ask how we make payroll week after week, month after month.)

Event_King




msg:475142
 2:20 pm on Jul 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

If there's one thing to know about directories, and that is they take a lot of man hours to maintain. If you have loads of money, then it's pretty easy to make a good commercial one. But have no illusions, cash is the key here.

Dmoz got where it is because it was one of the first directories about, people were still new to online directories, and thus it gained the millions of free submissions it needed to become successful. The same can be said of Yell.com and Thomson, although they were already 'established' years in advance of the web, so they could 'get away' with not charging for submissions.

The rest of the directory world is NOT Yell, Yahoo or dmoz - this is because many businesses prefer to trust a major player/group etc. And is why this is such a tough industry to get into, never mind survive in.

(I hope industry is the correct word here)

There are so many 'publishers' out there besides SE's and directories and all jostling for position, clients and profit. No wonder it's impossible to make a living from this unless you're unique, and the pressure of business, status on the web, egotistical webmasters all egging each other along amongst the lies and falseness about the potential riches of website ownership, just trips people up and empties pockets.

People fall for it and will keep falling for it, until they get wise to this fairy tale world. What was once a great info resource has now turned into a world of scamsters, snake oil type merchants and major crime fraudsters. Yes, it is possible to 'make it' but not when a market is already saturated. I can't believe people fall for this stuff - it's laughable and sad, but this the web, and like I said many more will start directories, other portals etc, and all fail - unless they are unique! Why should I use or pay for something when there is no clear advantage.

There are hundreds of 'directories' - and if you can make just one stand out, then it may be useful, it may provide a ROI somehow - but result in millions for owners, I seriously doubt it because of the numbers involved. Money is the motivational factor of why everyone wants a directory, sadly it's a nothing more than a pipe dream for most. I must get 5 emails per day from some directory owners desperately wanting me to hand over 300, but that's too expensive for a start up directory, and I must ask myself, if I'm going to get that back, never mind any profit on top of that. I then check their Alexa Rank to discover that they aren't even in the top 300,000. Sometime the PageRank value is attractive to warrant a listing, but not at that price. No traffic, must equal no ROI.

This is business Ladies and Gents, and that's that.

larryhatch




msg:475143
 4:31 pm on Jul 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

My main use for directories is to see if my site is listed or not.
I somehow suspect that 90+ percent of directory traffic is people like myself
who just want to see if their Macrame or model trains website got listed or not.

If I were really interested in knitting, dogs or cats or even model trains
for that matter, I would use Google like everyone else.
If G goes down, I use Y. Then back to G.
I just went surfing for an obscure but important electronic part.
I could have looked into Biblical libraries, but I didn't.
I could have used the yellow pages from old old telephone books but I didn't.

I did what everybody else does, and Googled up the source.

Still, I must admit, I look into this or that directory to see
if they list my little forelorn site. Maybe that is the purpose of online directories.
They are there to make us feel a little better. -Larry

Event_King




msg:475144
 9:34 pm on Jul 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Might be right there. But people checking out just to see if they've been listed, don't have the cash to spend on advertising anyway. If they had, they wouldn't be seeking out free directory listings.....

But some directories are very good at advertising, and also good for fast searches. Search engines are a bit deep, when searching and that can be irritating indeed.

This might sound strange, but if I want local stuff, then I use Yell.com - even though I know full well Google has a local search. The point is I know Yell is for Local searching and trust Yell more than anyone else for local searches.

But I'll use MSN or Yahoo for a general search... I have my faves!

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