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Does a link from dmoz count more then from other places?
rookiecrd1




msg:481296
 2:10 am on May 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you have a link at dmoz, does google weigh this more then a link at other sites?

 

ska_demon




msg:481297
 1:09 pm on May 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I would say google gives no more weight to a link from DMOZ than it would from anywhere else.
At the end of the day DMOZ is just a website.

Ska

cbpayne




msg:481298
 9:36 pm on May 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

IMHO Google, does not give any extra weight to a DMOZ link -- but we do not really know. The DMOZ bashers like to point out that it does not, but they don't really know either.

BUT, the DMOZ database is used by ~4000 other sites as their directory (eg Google, AOL, ScienceDaily, etc etc) --- a surprising number of which are indexed in Google and do have some PR on the deeper pages. The DMOZ bashers like to suggest that Google gives no weight to these ~4000 clones due to duplicate content issues, but no one really knows (so its just 'wishful thinking')---- as so many of them are indexed by Google and have some PR, that no looks like a duplicate content filter to me.

If the title used by DMOZ is also your targeted keyword ..... that up to 4000 keywords in anchor text rich links to your site!

hutcheson




msg:481299
 3:11 am on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Some time ago, Google repeatedly claimed they were't giving special credit to links from any site. I believe them, not least because it is not a "Google way of thinking."

If your regular activity in life is thinking only about pushing one site above another of no less merit, then it's easy to get into the habit of assuming everyone thinks like that. But that's the exact opposite of the "Google approach", which as much as possible avoids manual tweaking unless there's a SERIOUS problem -- the searchking emergency, etc. I wouldn't expect them EVER to CONSIDER manually tweaking sites up. For the small possible gains, it's not worth it. Far better to attempt to determine algorithmically what is common to all the good sites, and promote that.

steveb




msg:481300
 10:20 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google treats dmoz links like they treat any other, which means a dmoz link is far more valuable than an average link, and wildly more valuable than a link on a scraper site.

Dmoz is a recognized authoritative source. It earns this reputation just like any other authoritative site, whether that be the BBC, Webmasterworld, or whoever. Getting a link (of the same PR) from dmoz is better than getting a link from some blog spammed piece of crap site.

LizardGroupie




msg:481301
 11:21 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

does google weigh this more then a link at other sites?

Google certainly should give a DMOZ link extra weight, considering that DMOZ only admits worthy sites, unlike link farms that will take anything.

But alas, Google has never stated that they do so.

I still think they probably do, but that's my personal opinion.

spaceylacie




msg:481302
 11:30 pm on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes.

minnapple




msg:481303
 5:39 am on May 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

yes 2
It is one of the best inbounds you can get depending how close to the top cat it is in and how many sites are in the cat, etc etc .
And what are you comparing to?

Kangol




msg:481304
 12:55 pm on May 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Does a link from dmoz count more then from other places?"
Yes because:
1. the link will be highly on topic
2. the link is edited by a human editor and Google will give more credibility.

StuffOfInterest




msg:481305
 12:11 pm on May 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

3. The listing is likely to be syndicated on numerous other websites.

ska_demon




msg:481306
 12:13 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google certainly should give a DMOZ link extra weight, considering that DMOZ only admits worthy sites, unlike link farms that will take anything.

Worthy Sites? Yes, predominantly.

I am not a DMOZ cynic but there is a 'wealth' of editors affiliate sites in the directory.

Ska

victor




msg:481307
 1:12 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

there is a 'wealth' of editors affiliate sites in the directory.

How many of them have you reported via the public ODP QA service?

What happened when you did?

ska_demon




msg:481308
 9:31 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am not the sort of person to go around reporting people for whatever reason. We all use techniques that could be considered underhand in order to maintain our rankings. I would hope that the more scrupulous editors would try to keep some control over the directory and maintain its 'usefulness'.

Ska

arras




msg:481309
 10:06 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

what it's all about DMOZ and green horses,get links from BBC ,PBS,CNN and then tell me about your rankings :)

arras




msg:481310
 10:09 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Even childrens can submit there harry potter free host pages in DMOZ and get listed ,so what's the big deal and you get so mad about get a listing in DMOZ ,.

ska_demon




msg:481311
 4:56 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

I personally couldn't care less whether DMOZ accepts my sites or not. I submit sites to DMOZ as a matter of course. DMOZ just happens to be on my list of directories I think are worth submitting to.

There are a million other ways of improving rankings.

Ska

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