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as long as you get what you want, aka your site listed, are you really bothered.

sometimes 1 can spend too much time thinking about things which dont really matter in the long run.

The reason I wonder, is, I would like to get my own site in... and I don't have six grand like my boss does for SEO. I barely had the 105 I needed for FAST, Teoma and Inktomi! And I am running out of places to ask for reciprocal links.

Allright, I'm sure everyone is tired of people like me whining they can't get in DMOZ, but still, if people are getting in, knowing something the public doesn't know, curiosity can't help but get the better of me.

suppose thats what 6 grand buys you then in todays SEO world :)

On a serious note, I have never had a site rejected which was worthy of being included in DMOZ, just kept reading exactlty what the purpose of DMOZ was, and how my site/s could help the directory, in turn helping myself.

Shak

As an editor, and as a submitter, I agree with Shak. Follow the rules, and you'll do fine. Really.

There are probably numerous SEOs and Internet Marketing types that are editors at ODP. If they promise a listing in exchange for payment or give ya a listing outside the guidelines or significantly different than others they've put in the category, well it shouldn't happen.

Probably does here and there. If they make a habit of it, chances are someone will catch on, they'll receive some kind of "reprimand" and listings associated with that editor may be brought back to meet the guidelines.

[dmoz.org...]

That's how easy it is. No wonder he's laughing - it's so simple but so few people seem to look there.

It always confuses me that webmasters seem to value a dmoz listing as highly as high ranking in Google, yet they spend many hours a week trying to deduce Google's secret algorithm but no time at all reading dmoz's publicly available guidelines for submission. I just don't get it.

The problem is, the submitter wants both the listing and the keywords in the description, when it's really only getting listed that will affect SERP position. If the submitter didn't bother about keyword-stuffing the submission, as is highly recommended in the guidelines, they'd stand a much better chance of getting listed and would almost certainly get listed more quickly. Plenty of editors have posted here and elsewhere to say that they process guidelines-compliant submissions before going through and rewriting all the keyword-stuffed ones.

Mind if I take that a stage further?

After reading the guidelines, study the directory cat. you want to get into. Look at the writers style of descriptions. Then copy it.

If you want to get in fast you need to make a submission that leaves the editor with nothing to do except hit the publish button. If he has to make even one change to get it right, then expect a delay. And that's your own fault.

Works for me every time. Have never waited more than two weeks to get a dmoz listing and in cats where there are editors, I usually get it in 1-2 days.

Now, can someone please explain to me the secret with getting a Yahoo! free listing?! LOL

It's not fishy if the person has asked for other areas, but has been turned away because the other areas were too large, etc.

I'm not a dmoz editor, but I edit elsewhere. With the limited time I have available, if I applied at dmoz and was accepted, I personally wouldn't be looking to expand my involvement very wide. There are only so many hours in the day and some of those simply must be reserved to enjoy family, good food and friends.

Inspired! Did you make that one up?

why, oh why, would such a company be bothered whether they are in Dmoz or not.

With that sort of budget Anchor Text links on some of the worlds leading destination sites are possible.

Like most have said in this thread, there is little involved (other than talent) to get a good Dmoz listing. From what I have seen and heard, that talent is rare. Here is what I've noticed:

a) most seo's that have problems with dmoz do so because they don't know how to write a good description.

Bad descriptions by seos are often rejected because they attempt to lace them with keywords. Most editors see that stuff a mile away and never approve it.

I have to disagree with this. I submitted my site every two months to the ODP and was still not listed after a YEAR! The category I was submitting to had no editor, but the editor from the category above usually did the editing for my category.

A new editor was assigned to the category, and I was listed in a week! Not only that, I was givin a "cool site" icon! So here is my question: What happens when your competition is editing the category you're trying to get listed in? I can't say for sure that is what happened, but it's the only explanation I can think of.

I also don't want to get the editor in trouble who finally listed my site, but I contacted him and he told me something very interesting. The other editor had rejected my site each time and stated the reason as "Affiliate Site".

I won't post my URL, but those of you with full access can take a look at my site, and you'll see that it is FAR from an affiliate site! The other editor had absolutely no legitimate reason for rejecting my listing, especially considering some of the other sites that were listed!

ODP says "Humans do it better", well, humans can also do it any way that helps them, or hurts their competition. I have had litteraly hundreds and hundreds of people tell me I have THE BEST ******* website they have ever seen. I'm glad I finally got listed in DMOZ. We all know how much it can help PR, especially once google updates it's own directory, but I have absolutely no respect for the ODP at all!