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Powdork

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Msg#: 1543 posted 8:43 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

I went by to check my directory listing (after all, it cost $) and I just thought their new logo was about as close a font to Google's as i've seen. Its a good thing they didn't call it the 'relevant results search engine'

 

plmok

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Msg#: 1543 posted 3:32 pm on May 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Welcome to the forums plmok,

Hey thanks for the warm welcome!

>>Adding: it is not the *same* font, but I just think it is a little too close in "look and feel" making it not *special*

Its got some color in the letters but how can you make a connection from that? Personally I think it looks unique and I like it.

>>complete with a "Good tips from Google" link.

heehee guess they are trying to warn us about people like you. Just kidding. :)

excell

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Msg#: 1543 posted 3:39 pm on May 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

{excell awards Brad the most positive poster of the thread award}

skipfactor

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Msg#: 1543 posted 3:11 am on May 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

ncsuk gets the funniest award...LMAO too:

They should get someone as rubbish at graphics design as me to make it then they would be assured that it is unique and unlikely to ever be copied...

Powdork

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Msg#: 1543 posted 4:11 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Go Guides rulz... compared to dmoz. Yes there font now resembles Google's. Have you seen how much DMOZ resembles the Google directory?;) DMOZ is spam ridden so its not worthwhile to compare the two.
Besides go open a browser window, then go to dmoz, now go open another browser window and go to Goguides. Even with the headstart given to DMOZ which one do you think will open first? You could submit your site to GoGuides in the time it takes to find your category in DMOZ.

Powdork

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Msg#: 1543 posted 4:21 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

The search engine is still a little bit hit and miss, but we are told that the people in the know are working on it

I think they are trying too hard. Who says we need all those results? The results seem irrelevant because the searches for my area don't have that many relevant sites in the directory. They list all these sites and at the top. Then they feel as though they have to add another 200 results which start with being irrelevant and get worse. If you search for New York weddings (not real search) I don't want ten thousand New York real estate agents.

skipfactor

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Msg#: 1543 posted 1:20 am on May 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

Go Guides rulz

They're doing good work. I really like it, wish them well with their growing pains.

Have you seen how much DMOZ resembles the Google directory

I think perhaps Google meant to resemble DMOZ instead of the other way around, but there's your point; if G can do it anybody can. :)

Alex_Gilman

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Msg#: 1543 posted 1:04 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I edit there too ...oh and I designed the logo.

Visit Thailand

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Msg#: 1543 posted 1:18 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well I did not read this post with 100% concentration as I was trying to get to goguides.com - why are they working on a .org

Anyway like the style but the results were appalling. Tried 5 different searches and each one was so far off what I was searching it was nearly funny.

tlpretender

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:34 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

There were valid points made with reference to the slogan, if the slogan were to be taken by its self.
The point I was making was not about this or that bit of spam in GoGuides, but the fact that is they claim to be "Spam Free" as their main slogan, then it is a claim that they cannot possibly live up to :(

However, the slogan was to accompany the link that went with it to explain its intent. See the [goguides.org...] page of the site. (Couldn't remember if urls are allowed on this board. Please remove if needed.)

I think Excell and ncsuk had the right spirit of the slogan in their statements.
Your point is taken,, it would be better to say, "we strive for a SPAM free directory" or some such.
I think it would be almost impossible to be totally SPAM free as sites change and things slip in etc. I know with a small regional directory I help with it is very, very hard work to keep on top of, that is why shooting off an e-mail to the spam people is always a great idea. Helping to keep the Internet a better place is a community effort.

and ncsuk
I think we should just strive for a spam free internet really.

The slogan is really a motto or goal. It is something that GoGuides.Org is striving for, not already obtained.

[sidenote]
Alex, great job on the logo. You captured the unified variety of people focus well. kudos!

jimbeetle

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:44 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Have you seen how much DMOZ resembles the Google directory?

>>perhaps Google meant to resemble DMOZ instead of the other way around

Keep in mind that the Google directory is the DMOZ directory.

ncsuk

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:46 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thank you skipfactor that means a lot to me :S

Alternative Future

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:50 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Credit to GoGuides.org for having my site reviewed and on their directory within a couple of days :)

Wonder how they grade the sites though!?

-gs

ncsuk

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:53 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

We grade them by how good we think they are. Im an editor and I give a site a grade depending on.

a. Look of the site
b. Content of the site
c. Broken links

Bacically there is more but im not going to go into it.

The main thing really is that as long as the site is clean, no spam, no dodgy redirect and no popups it gets my thumbs up and instantly get 2 or 3 stars.

Then its a matter of seeing if there is any reason to downgrade it.

Alternative Future

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:59 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Not blowing my own trumpet ;) but my site only got one when it has had many a review praising it for look & feel, content etc... And the reviewers are editors of large related sites.

But anyway as I said nice site and speedy response - well done.

-gs

tlpretender

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Msg#: 1543 posted 3:08 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey alt,

The rating may be coming later. I know when I go through a topic, I like to get all the pending added first and then go back and rate them. Seeing them all gives me a more objective view of what is available in that topic before I actually rate the sites.

Alternative Future

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Msg#: 1543 posted 3:15 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ahh makes sense I suppose will keep a close eye on it then :)

Cheers for the update...

-gs

Laisha

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Msg#: 1543 posted 5:09 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Keep in mind that the Google directory is the DMOZ directory.

And was the DMOZ directory for at least a year or so before it was the Google directory.

jimbeetle

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Msg#: 1543 posted 6:05 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Things seem so clear when you know what you're trying to say, but when you read it through somebody else's eyes it's always so much more vague.

Guess I should have phrased it that the Google directory is basically a clone of the DMOZ directory.

thejenn

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Msg#: 1543 posted 6:37 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ya know, I gotta say, I read these posts and stopped by to see the logo and thought "Wow! that IS the Google font."

Then I opened up two browsers to view them side by side and it isn't at ALL the Google font. For pete's sake, the small "g's" even point in the opposite directions. :) The only similarity I really see is that it's a serif font.

That said, I'm glad to see GoGuides moving forward. I've always appreciated the nature of DMOZ, but their recent problems have really damaged their ability to accomplish their purpose. Having alternate options like GoGuides, JoeAnt and the others is great for the industry. It gives webmasters more options and keeps the "big ones" on their toes. :)

Guess I should have phrased it that the Google directory is basically a clone of the DMOZ directory.

Not basically a clone...an actual clone. Google's directory is a direct feed from DMOZ.

Powdork

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Msg#: 1543 posted 7:42 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's not an exact clone. DMOZ updates its own directory on a somewhat regular basis. Making a dump available for the 'clones' happens less often than that. Google then grabs the dump at a time of its choosing (often months more wait). Thus, they are often quite different. Google will then also rank according to PR or alphabetically.

thejenn

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Msg#: 1543 posted 9:14 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ok, well you got me on the details ;), but what I was trying to get across was that it wasn't coincidence that they were similar. It is by purpose that they are similar.

Yes, anyone who managed to get a site listed in DMOZ last fall knows that when things break, it can take months (and months, and months) for the dump to get picked up and start showing in the Google directory. :)

tlpretender

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Msg#: 1543 posted 4:14 pm on May 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

i typed SEO in and go no results back

You should get results now.
Phase one of the database search upgrades took care of that. Speed is still good too.
Much more to go....

Fearless

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Msg#: 1543 posted 1:59 am on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I went to the trouble to submit some of my sites to goguides. I got a rejection notice that didn't make a lick of sense.

They told me to "resubmit" to a category that was illogical and to a topic that doesn't exist.

I smell processed pork luncheon meat in the offing. Now I wish had had used a "throwaway" email address. Dumb, dumb [sound of hand smacking forehead]

Waste of time.

gnikiv

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Msg#: 1543 posted 3:01 am on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

What difference would a throw away address make - other than to hide from hearing about the rejection?

cornwall

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Msg#: 1543 posted 7:19 am on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>What difference would a throw away address make

Quite, you have presumably needed to tell them what your web site is, so "they" know who you are

Why, unless your own site is dodgy, would you want to hide who you are?

If you really think editor aduse is afoot, then make a complaint to GoGuides

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 1543 posted 2:37 pm on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Considering GoGuides at the moment doesn't get that much use, and has low Google Pagerank, I find it hard to believe that there is much editor abuse. Just not worth the effort.

cornwall

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Msg#: 1543 posted 4:25 pm on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Considering GoGuides at the moment doesn't get that much use, and has low Google Pagerank, I find it hard to believe that there is much editor abuse<<

One day someone will write the definitive book on why editor abuse occurs.

I would hazard a guess the percentage abusing at GoGuides is no better, no worse, than the percentage abusing at DMOZ.

IMO a large chunk of the abusive ones just get a kick out of seeing their site up there in lights!

penfold25

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Msg#: 1543 posted 4:34 pm on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Also motivation for money can make people do silly things in all facets of life.

I think we all know there is always some abuse when power is involved. It is harder to have integrity then there is fall temptation and abuse it....

gnikiv

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Msg#: 1543 posted 6:44 pm on Jul 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Speaking of GoGuides....
Did a blog search for them at Feedster and found a recent interview with them at Abakus a German/English site.

Posting url, but not sure if that is allowed. If it needs removed let me know.

Blog message [abakus-internet-marketing.de]

GoGuide posting [abakus-internet-marketing.de]

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