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msg:482602
 4:45 pm on Apr 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

Greetings WebmasterWorld!

I believe the world needs more directory structures that webmasters can submit their sites to. I'd like for one to be made, and possibly make it with people here. This is more of a idea to get conceptual designs and structures for one and see if wheels start turning.

DMOZ and Yahoo are both great resources. I know that with the minds here another directory could be built with unique features and be very useful to websurfers, and webmasters. Ideally the site would need to be clean, sharp in presence and looks and offer a structure that is suitable. The site submission would need to be free and as DMOZ does, have editors.

All the pages would be indexable, and would be structures as paths compared to variables and such. I don't want to reinvent a wheel here, I want ideas to turn and to have a new directory spawn from the results. Ideas are fine, good and bad.

Right now so much is relying on DMOZ and Yahoo and it wouldnt hurt if another structure was available.

EliteWeb

 

cornwall




msg:482632
 1:45 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>.. I think the drawback is that the collaboration has to be niche, and someone here may already have vested interests in the niche.

Agree with that. Niche Directories are manageable (and hopefully comprehensive therefore) so collaboration is not necessary.

A large directory needs many editors. Enough volunteer editors just do not exist to index the web. Period.

Therefore I would contend that the only way to run such a large directory would be to have in place a lot of the sort of gizmo's discussed here to cut down on the amount of human input required.

dwilson




msg:482633
 3:48 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Imagine, for instance, an ODP with all the Geocities and Angelfire sites (etc) removed. That would remove a big chunk of cruddy popup infested sites.

Hey, don't knock all the Geocities & similar sites! There are some very good niche information sites on Geocities!

Brad




msg:482634
 4:20 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>There are some very good niche information sites on Geocities!

Yes, it all depends on the subject category and underlines the need for human editors in order to distinguish good from bad.

Go2




msg:482635
 9:49 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

EliteWeb: DMOZ and Yahoo are both great resources. I know that with the minds here another directory could be built with unique features and be very useful to websurfers, and webmasters. Ideally the site would need to be clean, sharp in presence and looks and offer a structure that is suitable.

Ok.

dmorison: How about some kind of self-moderating (Slashdot style) directory, whereby submission to the directory was immediate and does not require an editor.

Ok.

brotherhood of LAN: Things like 404 checking, expired domains, sites changing content etc can maybe be improved upon at the current directories. The only editors I would "need" are to make sure the algo put the page into the right category.

Ok.

EliteWeb: Automated processes of picking up bad links by using robots to flag them are important also.

Ok.

EliteWeb: The directory would have support for multiple languages as there are plenty enough webmasters out there for non-english sites.

Ok.

Brad: Any large directory will need a very good search system. Once you get past a certain size people will prefer to search instead of drilling down through the structure.

Ok.

I would love to have you guys over for the introduction tour....

brotherhood of LAN




msg:482636
 5:59 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

So how are (or should) the major directories check their listings?

-Check listings once a month?
-Check important domains more often?
-What to do when a page's content has completely changed
-How to automate all of the problems/solutions
etc

cornwall




msg:482637
 6:23 pm on Apr 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>-How to automate all of the problems/solutions

Only if that can be done will a new (indeed any) directory work.

As Yahoo, DMOZ et al have never suceeded in doing this, one assumes that it is not an easy task.

EliteWeb




msg:482638
 6:48 pm on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

Greetings everyone, got back from Pubconf a few days ago and missed some of these threads while I was gone.

The directory structure would be a good place to start at in figuring out which structure it would best be suited with. The ODP structure, the Yahoo structure the way the TOP categories are displayed, would anyone suggest any changes in those? Or are those categories well chosen? I think most everything fits into them.

The search system would need to be setup also in how it searches, how the sites are indexed and made searchable then how they rank. While at the conference did anyone talk about the possibility of a new directory, the good, the bad, the flaws and so forth?

Would people be interested in getting into a project like this, as an editor, as developers, designers, and all the other aspects of development and layout of the site? Feedback from people who have developed directories before and had roles in them would be good to hear from.

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