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msg:491436
 5:32 pm on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just ran into this new directory. It seems to be a spinoff that some DMOZ editors have been creating.
[musicmoz.org...]
What do you think?

 

Laisha




msg:491437
 6:23 pm on Mar 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think it's not really connected with Dmoz other than the fact that the editors of MusicMoz met at Dmoz.

skibum




msg:491438
 1:56 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think its been around for a while.

korkus2000




msg:491439
 2:45 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

It has been around for sometime and they haven't updated the data in a long time. I have been waiting for almost a year for an update and still nada.

Bradley




msg:491440
 2:55 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)


I'll second korkus. I submitted a while back, and even emailed them directly..........No response at all.

WindSun




msg:491441
 9:26 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

It has been around since 2000, but has pretty much died out from what I can see. There is another one too - chefmoz, same idea, same slow death.

They were started 3 years ago by editors at ODP (not sure if they were supposed to be part of ODP or not - but this appears on the pages: "Copyright 1999-2003 Netscape."). However, once ODP peaked out, and AOL/Netscape took over they pretty much went into a death spiral from all appearances - I see almost no recent updates on either site.

This appears at the bottom of some DMOZ pages:

"Visit our sister sites chefmoz.org musicmoz.org open-site.org"

Statistics as of the beginning of January, 2001 for chefmoz:

49.199 restaurants
1,708 reviews
40,938 links to reviews
311 editors

Current stats: 182924 restaurants - 11394 reviews - 47889 links to reviews - 595 editors.

I think they are basically projects that were started in better times and never got any support. So, while not dead, they are far from healthy.

kfander




msg:491442
 4:01 am on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

Editors are still plugging away, adding listings to ChefMoz everyday. Dunno about MusicMoz, as I've never been there.

ChefMoz is indeed a sister project of the ODP while (I think) MusicMoz was created by ODP editors, but is not (or was not) directly related to the Open Directory Project.

That may have changed while I wasn't paying attention.

[edited by: Laisha at 5:19 am (utc) on Mar. 5, 2003]

CalmBlueRage




msg:491443
 7:51 am on Mar 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

korkus2000 and Bradley, what categories did you submit to?
I can't promise anything but to check into your listings.

MusicMoz had it's Grand Opening November 2002. It was started by a few DMOZ editors, including Metas and Editalls. Some of the information is based upon ODP data, but is mainly being added by editors and submissions. The process is a new one, but familiar to those editors already involved with the ODP. It actually seems to be catching on with other editors, as far as I can see in the DMOZ editor forums. It is a slow process, due to the lack of editors, and time.

I think it has great potential. The updates are XML dumps. I've noticed quick and accurate search results, soon after posting updates.

<edit spelling>

troels nybo nielsen




msg:491444
 4:10 pm on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hmmm... I see that they can't handle Scandinavian characters. Any hope of having that fixed? And do they accept websites that do not have English versions? I have not found any so far. And I have not found answers to my questions in the FAQ.

choster




msg:491445
 4:46 pm on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

Directory-building is difficult work. I don't think chefmoz is in any worse position than any of the other volunteer-edited directories out there. If they hadn't been seeded with DigitalCity.com data the criticism was probably be small size rather than slow growth.

have remains smaller still. I have edited off and on, but a lot more effort needs to go into a ChefMoz profile than goes into an ODP listing.

I am not especially familiar with Open-Site.org except that it is brand new and, as with any open content encyclopedia, its early entries will be appallingly bad and improve with edits by more knowledgeable reviewers as the site grows. Like MusicMoz, it is not sponsored directly by ODP or Netscape, but by people who met while they were ODP editors.

Hazza




msg:491446
 4:05 pm on Mar 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Indeed, MusicMoz is not an "official" off-shoot of DMoz. Its founders are ODP Meta editors. It does, however, use DMoz data (ie most of the links at MusicMoz come from DMoz).

Recently activity there has grown substantially, so I don't think that it is dying at all.

shangri_la




msg:491447
 10:28 am on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

do they accept websites that do not have English versions?

A World section is under development & will be launched soon. In the meantime, you could submit content to the appropriate English category, and it will be moved to World.

Musicmoz on a whole is just a baby still. Most links are imported from Dmoz, but it is far more than just links, offering discography, biography, reviews, timeline, etc...

Of course there are still a lot of categories with minimal content (we are working as fast as we can), so if you don't want to apply as editor, how about submitting a few discographies for your favourite groups, or write-up some biographies, or reviews. All submissions are credited (unless you state anonymous).

For prospective editors, individual Bands_and_Artists category applications, are mostly accepted immediately (unless you don't declare affiliations, or your English is atrocious). Other areas, such as Styles, Regional etc, are a little harder to be accepted for, at the moment, as you need ontology understanding, but those applications are still being considered.

Most importantly, remember a good free resource isn't just built by itself. It needs volunteers. Just look at Dmoz. It took a while before the content and quality was there.

Oh, and if you do make it over to Musicmoz, say hello to me :)
Julie
Editor poppyseed

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