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Changing Domain in Dmoz
zooros




msg:478882
 9:43 pm on Sep 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

hi everyone,
i m having a particular problem with some of the pages of
one client which were submitted by my predecessor under different
domains.

the client has a bunch of good reasons to control these
domains, he is also not actively marketing them - these are
just plain and simple domain forwards to the same pages - but i am
wondering if this wont be a violation of the dmoz guidelines.

i have tried to correct this via update/or resubmit -
but i got no response for 12 weeks. i am now wondering what
to do ...

i mean i would like to see the domain (forwards) corrected -
on the other hand i do not want to bother the dmoz editors ...
any advice?

 

Torben Lundsgaard




msg:478883
 9:51 pm on Sep 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Try again. If it doesn't help you can email the editor and if that doesn't help you shoul seek help from the editor one level above.

choster




msg:478884
 10:00 pm on Sep 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

Depending on how these urls are set up, they could in fact constitute a violation not just of one, but of the first four ODP-wide submission guidelines (http://dmoz.org/add.html ).

If you have already used the "update url" link, you could try contacting the a nearby editor (one listed in the category or one of its parents) and asking that it be looked at. Actually in this case, you could sticky mail the urls to myself or rafalk or ettore (also ODP meta-editors who frequent these boards) and we will investigate. Note that if this is a case of editorial misconduct or error, your listing(s) may be rearranged and some of them dropped.

zooros




msg:478885
 10:23 pm on Sep 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

choster,
thank you for the answer ...

but thats it was i was basically afraid about.
when i look at the places/directories - then
i honestly believe they belong there - i would
describe them as quality content.

the sad thing is that whenever i have to deal with
dmoz it is always risky ...

but responding to your comment about the first
four rules:

the pages are faculty pages of some known
professors - but not properly submitted under the
url/domain of the university.

1 they are not mirror sites
2 as far as i know (im checking the referrer logs)
there are no similar pages submitted to dmoz
3 its not the same url ...
4 but right ... i mean its using a forward domain

choster - i am not really interested in making you
"investigate" "editorial misconduct or error" ...
however i would like to get the urls corrected
before this creates a problem -

and hey - i like the open spirit of dmoz ...
it would be great if we could keep this alive

if you are around - could you send me a quick sticky
mail so that i can send you the urls?

Quadrille




msg:478886
 12:52 pm on Sep 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

If the urls simply forward to other domains, they should not appear in the open directory. However, the destination url may be entitled to a listing (if not listed already), and should be submitted.

The 'new' url would be reviewed as any other - but common reasons for 'forwarded sites' not be listed are - the site is not a site, but a deeplink of another site, or a mirror or clone of another site.

Consistent submission of forwarding URLs - clearly warned against in the guidelines - could well be considered spam. Or worse.

This guideline is very sensible - forwarding (at best) wastes a few microseconds, at worst it deceives the reader, and if a duplicate of the actual url's listing, wastes more time. ODP is there to help people find what they seek, not send them round in circles :)

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