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Guess I didn't need to list anway.
fathom




msg:490167
 10:46 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

When did this occur?

Euroseek [euroseek.com]

and are the previous listings still there?

 

Rumbas




msg:490168
 10:55 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Certainly news to me.

What about the "Powered by Google" logo? That's news too??

Oh, well..

heini




msg:490169
 10:57 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ah well, Euroseek....

I haven't noticed this, thanks for bringing this in, Fathom.

So what happened to all those webmasters and the sites they submitted? Are those still somewhere in the system?

Let's see if and what Euroseek has to say on this.

google is old

[edited by: heini at 11:15 am (utc) on Aug. 20, 2002]

Rumbas




msg:490170
 10:58 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

>google is old

Even with the Adwords on top?

Nick_W




msg:490171
 11:00 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Smacks of a contingency plan to me...

My impression of Euroseek is of a bunch of well intentioned but unfortunately incompetent 'wanna be's'

Sad really, there's a lot of potential in the project but I just don't think it'll fly....

Nick

fathom




msg:490172
 11:08 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Agree there Nick.

Google's PR went up from before the change everything was PR2 and below... just another clone now, though.

<added>Brett need to make yet another change to SE/Dir org chart</added>

[edited by: fathom at 11:10 am (utc) on Aug. 20, 2002]

Bobby_Davro




msg:490173
 11:08 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

I wonder why they didn't just use the European categories and merge them with their own? Is Euroseek any different to Google now? It uses the same search database and the same directory...

Isn't this just Google with larger adverts? :(

stever




msg:490174
 11:22 am on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

So what happened to all those webmasters and their sites? Are those still somewhere in the system?

Yes, they're in the directory folder, not the dmoz one, with no immediate access into it. However, if I search using mycompanyrareterm, the search provides a selection of pages listed by Google and the link to the Euroseek directory listing at the bottom.

If I search for anothercompanyrareterm, which is listed by Google but was never submitted to Euroseek, the search comes up with no results...

mack




msg:490175
 1:13 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

At least that have a directory that works now!

Napoleon




msg:490176
 3:42 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well thanks a bunch Euroseek... all those submissions. Yeh, I was dumb enough to think they might be trying to create a worthwhile Euro-Directory too.

It now amounts to just a fancy domain name pointing at Google. Pretty much worthless.

EliteWeb




msg:490177
 4:21 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

:) saw that a few days ago.... glad it happened but now i cant add some to it unless its odp.

Nick_W




msg:490178
 4:29 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yes, there should be a description of Eurowaste under the term 'wasted opportunity'

What a sham, and what a shame. I certainly won't be wasting any sleep over it though....

I remember a few years back, pitching them for ad-space, lot's of big talk but no cash, the ad-sales term is a stroker.

Seems nothing's changed....

Bye bye, Eurowotsit, bye, bye....

Nick

mfagan




msg:490179
 7:01 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

EuroSeek has been using Google since March or April I believe.

Brad




msg:490180
 7:08 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

>EuroSeek has been using Google since March or April I believe.

Yes that is as I remember it. They launched using Google and added the directory later. It is a shame that they will not be building a Euro-directory. Although the costs would be very high in the long term.

I do not see the need for another ODP clone or cobranded Google search. Is their fallback plan a Europortal?

heini




msg:490181
 7:23 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yes, Google and adwords the earthlink style went live beginning of April
[webmasterworld.com...]

The directory submission went live beginning of May:
[webmasterworld.com...]
continued here (pre BestBBsV3.037)
[webmasterworld.com...]

Looks like it all turns out being a story of misled expectations.
Alas, no new free directory for europe. At least operating with another dmoz clone and another Google outlet Euroseek is in working mode now.

What good will it do for the web?
Will they be able to gain reach?
Is this a viable business model?

I can't imagine that this is the final version of the long and winding story of Euroseek.

Brad




msg:490182
 11:27 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

>What good will it do for the web?
>Will they be able to gain reach?
>Is this a viable business model?

heini, you took the questions right out of my mouth. It does no good for the web. Reach? Never. Business model? I do not see how. If it was viable everybody would do it. The problem with using ODP and Google is that sooner or later the searchers will just go to the real thing.

Only by offering something unique with quality will they have a chance.

(At least they did not go PPC.) :)

heini




msg:490183
 11:30 pm on Aug 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

>At least they did not go PPC
well they do adwords....

I would be surprised if we would not see any additional attempts at money making soon on Euroseek.

Brad




msg:490184
 12:41 am on Aug 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

heini,

Sorry if this is off topic but the concept of a Euro-directory intregues me.

Why can't our Russian friends at Mavicanet be that Euro-directory? It has category editors, is multilingual, international and well built? Perhaps it is just a matter of philosophically adopting it as *the* new Euro directory if old Euroseek is going to quit the field? Just a thought. :)

Euroseek




msg:490185
 5:27 am on Aug 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for the comments. We decided to use dmoz temporarily while we continue to build the directory. We didn't feel the euroseek directory had enough content for our users. Once the directory has enough sites, it will be released. We will be adding a submit your site and links to the directory under construction.

fathom




msg:490186
 5:43 am on Aug 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thans Euroseek for the clarification.

Rumbas




msg:490187
 1:09 pm on Aug 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Euroseek, people see the ODP dump, do you think your visitors will add their sites anyway? [if they know they can go to ODP and get into your directory]

What about Google? Still planning on using them in the future too?

Thanks for sharing.

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