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Wisenut / Looksmart
Wisenut hasn't updates since July
chadlerh




msg:464400
 5:26 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

I hope Looksmart will make them update more often. Does anyone have any news as to how Looksmart will use Wisenut. I say Looksmart is looking to compete directly with inktomi and I'm all for it.

 

jeremy goodrich




msg:464401
 6:00 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

I believe they have updated more recently than that.

However, I'm not so interested in them 'competing more directly with ink' but seeing them get much needed capital, and hardware to expand their search and make their freely searchable, free inclusion database that much better.

If they were able to accomplish all this in such a short time, imagine how much more they can do with the right funds ? Should be interesting to see.

Google has no competition, and this could launch them into the right position to compete head on as a free engine.

Liane




msg:464402
 6:52 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Does anyone really believe that LookSmart, who launched the pay for inclusion scheme, would actually offer a free search engine? I don't.

jeremy goodrich




msg:464403
 7:49 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

The only paid service which Looksmart doesn't already offer is pay for spidering - they have everything else on sale, and have for a while (annual fees coming soon is my bet).

So, the only thing left is of course pay for spidering. Which they will doubtless offer, as Ask did when they finally rolled out their version of the Teoma Search engine.

But, what good is a paid for spidering database that nobody uses? Who gets decent traffic from looksmart? (aside from that their partners might give you) The traffic from them is dismal.

And everybody is getting sick and tired of commercial listings which begs the question: what's LookSmart going to do?

Well, to have a searchable database, they need to have pages included. Then, they can layer in paid stuff, which is fine...but, if they do the first part right, they can boost the revenues in their other paid schemes, and perhaps not resort to the same webmaster unfriendly marketing tactics that some pay to include spider programs have utilized (cough, no need to name names).

So I guess I'm saying I expect them to launch a pay for inclusion scheme with this, too...but, if they try and actually do something with it, it could be huge. How else can they challenge Google? Because it seems to me, in the pay per click, Yahoo / Ink have got them beat, and in directory listings, Yahoo is winning out there, too.

So what market could they be hoping to conquer? Aside from that, I believe they are a partner of Inktomi's for some things...so this relationship could have some surprises, at least, imho.

chadlerh




msg:464404
 8:36 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

these are the searches I did that show they have not updated, also i haven't seen there spider in a long time
[wisenut.com...]
[wisenut.com...]

keyplyr




msg:464405
 9:43 am on Mar 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well, Wisenut certainly has not updated any of my pages since I submitted them last summer. They are showing content excerpts that haven't been on the page in 6 months!

pyst




msg:464406
 9:29 pm on Mar 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

That's a shame about Wisenut. It looks like a good alternative to google.
What's with everyone wanting to go the pay for listings way. The attraction of using google at one stage was that I used to get my pages listed quite easily but now it seems to be more difficult(for me anyway)and I will move to using any reasonable search engine that I know will list my sites without having to pay to have it done. Why would I want to use an engine that doesn't even list my sites for free. Imagine how many other people like me and probably you are around ready to move to use search engines that 'scratch our backs' instead of trying to squeeze money out of us every way they can - bugger them.

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