| 10:18 pm on Jun 5, 2001 (gmt 0)|
"Sorry, no featured sites found! "
looks like a PPC platform in the making
| 10:27 pm on Jun 5, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Ditto what Mackin said... this one has a long, long way to go before it's sending out traffic.
Meanwhile, I did get a referral (the litmus test) from a new meta today, virtualfish [virtualfish.com]. I just spot-checked a few SERPS, but they looked pretty good. And check the mouse-over on the fisheye.
| 11:00 pm on Jun 5, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I like the fishie... Didn't try any searches, but what can I say? I can be so shallow sometimes.
| 11:01 pm on Jun 5, 2001 (gmt 0)|
virtualfish.com seems to be weighted toward Looksmart
[r.lksm.com...] appears all over it.
| 11:06 pm on Jun 5, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Speaking of startups, the Teoma bot is on the crawl (188.8.131.52). Speaking of Teomo, I like it's spartan interface. Nothing screams, "I don't know what I am doing and I need to be on an NT box" like a site filled with a bunch of silly graphics.
| 12:12 am on Jun 6, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Have you seen the PPC and SEO topics forum [webmasterworld.com]? This seems like the more appropriate place for this engine.
Displaying it's own "featured listings" and such, seems like a PPC which uses it's own results, and on top of that, layers the PPC from in house, instead of leveraging the Goto market reach, or one of the other majors like Findwhat and Sprinks.
He he, I like the IIS comments, Little, very on target. I wonder why people think anything would scale better than Beowulf clusters? I would think Nasa/IBM might be a little more on the ball than Microsoft for scalability. Just a fact of how long they've been in the game.
| 10:35 pm on Jun 9, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I checked out viscaonline.com and thought it was great. I think they are more focused on their directory than searches, because I went and had a look at their categories like "Career and Jobs" and stuff like that and it was full of great sites and no stupid home pages. I liked the online game arcade too.
The other thing is they seem to be the only guys with their own index any more. All the engines out there just seem to grab onto the open directory and expect us to be happy. I got to give them credit for that.
| 4:08 am on Jun 10, 2001 (gmt 0)|
These URL drops are so obvious to spot these days. Are they all learning from the same manual?
Excellent artwork? Heh if I wanted artwork Iid go to an art site
No stupid home pages? ????
Games? Heh if I wanted games Iid go to a games site
This mega-portal-pay-for-listings model has been tried before and failed. These guys are a year or so late and doomed for failure.
| 5:20 am on Jun 10, 2001 (gmt 0)|
i jsut added my site.It said that it needs few weeks to be added or so.Then i searched on the title i provided (3 keywords) and result was : no featured sites and 2 WEB results.and my site was aleady one of them?! Well, coool.Within seconds.
i checked what is this featured site about :
Is this PPC, Mike? i think that you can get featured if you put link on your home page as i read it? Or did you mean that they will eventually turn into PPC in time?
| 5:27 am on Jun 10, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Well maybe its still PPC - Promote per Click!
The "put a link on your site to get a listing" is an old spin used by new Se's to grow their visibility, usually associated with a URL drop strategy. I can't see it helping the broad user experience at all. Nowadays it can also of course help with link popularity, though im not sure if it will work that well.
Problem is it's an unsustainable strategy. If you had to put a graphic link to each Se that listed you, you wouldnt have any space left for content...
I gave up after doing 5 searches that all resulted in "No results found"
| 12:38 pm on Jun 10, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Thank you for sharing the resource and thanks for the direct link to the add url page. I think it does have a ways to go too, but good luck with it. Never know, could be the next Looksmart.
| 3:34 pm on Jun 10, 2001 (gmt 0)|
my site got approved for featured listing within 24 hours.I have to put text or graphic link on my site. Now i will test this feature for week to see if i get any refereals from them.If not, goodbye to their link on my index page.
| 5:08 pm on Jul 10, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I'm checking this and some other threads out because I'm collecting a list of second (third? fourth?) tier sites to get take a shot at. I submitted to viscaonline, putting in my description and the keywords (about 10). I then did a query on some of the key words, and we were listed. No other results though! And these are competitive keywords. Feels like the Twilight Zone. Or maybe like a pioneer. Or a waste of time. Time will tell.
Someone mentioned Teoma. Littleman. Are all those results their own, or are they fed by another? We are in there, but it's an old version of the site, really old. I guess I could submit to get a new crawl?
| 7:46 am on Jul 11, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Been with this engine for over 6 months and not a sngle referal yet.
| 10:18 am on Jul 14, 2001 (gmt 0)|
Thumbs up for Virtualfish.com.
Just had a play with it, very good relevant, i would say better than Mamma and metacrawler.
Though, it seems to be drawing on Google, MSN then looksmart, lycos in that order, didn't see alot AV listings come up.
| 1:17 pm on Jul 17, 2001 (gmt 0)|
When I go to virtualfish, Google is the only engine not-checked by default. I guess they're trying not to disturb the big boy too much. Smart!
| 10:03 am on Jul 19, 2001 (gmt 0)|
I'm surprised to see Google in the list at all - I know for a fact that Google charge around 5 grand to metasearchers to use their listings, if this one gets popular I think you'll soon see Google vanish.
| 8:56 pm on Jul 29, 2001 (gmt 0)|
My company publishes Visca Online, and noticed through traffic stats a number of users coming from this forum. Firstly, thanks for the positive compliments scattered throughout the thread - they are highly valued. Secondly, I would like to address a number of the complaints and speculations on what the search engine is and will be.
Visca Online runs its own in-house engine, does not get results from other engines, and is very particular about the listings accepted into both the engine and directory databases. It is my opinion that it is the easiest and fastest engine on the web for inclusion of a site. It is free to submit (always will be) and submissions are instantly keyword searchable by the time you have lifted your finger off the submit button (in a world of engines that you are lucky to be listed months later). Our editor manually goes through the new listings, and selects quality sites for inclusion into the directory which usually occurs within a week (it will even show you what our backlog of sites is at to let you know where we are in relation to your site).
This is all to encourage more webmasters submitting to our engine - combatting the main drawback of starting a new engine database, a lack of content. Our Featured Listing program is purely to assist in generating traffic, we are very selective about what sites can participate, and it will not transform into PPC. We simply don't have a Microsoft marketing budget, so we need to turn to such proven methods to promote our site. So although it is true that our search results right now are highly lacking compared to many of the large engines, we are working VERY hard to improve this situation. Our directory categories on the other hand, are starting to take form, and contain pages of high relevancy, quality listing I invite you to have a look at.
The online chat room, java games and technology reviews were things we really wanted to do, and enjoy running a fun chat room and know plenty of people who love online games. We have no interest in being another "all-in-one-portal".
Anyway, the purpose of this email is to help explain Visca Online better and in welcoming webmasters to help contribute to an engine that actually invites site submissions, rather than charge you a non-refundable, no guarantees of inclusion fee of $199US for the "privlage".