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how useful is alexa toolbar?
Roshu




msg:466119
 4:49 am on Jan 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

I want to know how reliable is alexa toolbar? Moreover, what is the difference between alexa rankings and alexa links? I am planning to use this toolbar to analyse my websites.

 

mack




msg:466120
 4:41 am on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Alexa can be quite easy to manipulate, for example when you first install the bar take a note of your alexa rank. Surf your site regularly for a month or so then re-check your rank. You will be surprized just how much different one toolbar can make.

There is however only so far one bar can take you, and it is difficult to reach the very low numbers.

Mack.

Event_King




msg:466121
 3:30 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yep, agreed. It's pretty naff and you'll probably get better results getting listed in Alexa search engine.

mack




msg:466122
 4:01 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think Alexa data can be fairly usefull but the data is only really usefull towards the lower ends of the scale. It's the lower end of the number game that seams to hold more truth.

Mack.

Robert Charlton




msg:466123
 5:59 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone know where in the number scale the figures become more or less trustworthy?

dataguy




msg:466124
 11:52 pm on Jan 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Anyone know where in the number scale the figures become more or less trustworthy?

I used to hear that 100,000 was the mark to look for. Anything over that is completely unreliable.

I think I read a post from Brett once that said 10,000 was the mark he used.

I have several sites under 5,000 and it is pretty much dead-on. Still I only consider it accurate within context, like if you compare the rankings to rankings of similar sites.

For a point of reference, I have one site (an admin control panel type of site) which I use for hours a day, every day of the week. All IP's are blocked from it except ones from my local network, so I know that no one else is visiting it. This sites rankings hover around 330,000 so I believe that this is what 1 daily visitor will do for your rankings.

I believe Alexa rankings can be important and I know that money is made and lost every day due to Alexa rankings. The fact is that it's the only tool that contains the information that it does, so it's the best of what's available. You just have to understand its' limitations and know how to use it.

jsinger




msg:466125
 12:09 am on Jan 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

what about the Metrics Market tool? That seems to be fairly accurate in guessing monthly traffic

wildbest




msg:466126
 12:20 am on Jan 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Alexa ranking is very unreliable, first because it is very easy to manipulate, and second data is based on Web users that have installed Alexa toolbar and this % is fairly small number, mainly by people that wish to improve their Alexa ranking...

I have personally met sites online from just couple of months within the first 10000 which is complete joke of course, and solid sites beyond the 200000 which have successful web presence and online business for years!

old_expat




msg:466127
 5:17 am on Jan 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

"what about the Metrics Market tool? That seems to be fairly accurate in guessing monthly traffic "

I just tried this on several of my sites and it showed 40% - 75% of my actual traffic.

jsinger




msg:466128
 7:39 am on Jan 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think 75% of actual traffic is pretty accurate. 40% is better than useless.

angiolo




msg:466129
 1:32 pm on Jan 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

> Metrics Market tool

That tool is directly correlated to Alexa....
You can easily see that there is a direct correlation to Alexa figures...

At similar Alexa Rank figures correspond similar Metric Market figures.... It's not realistic

burf2000




msg:466130
 11:50 pm on Jan 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

All I can say about this is, when I installed the tool bar and visited my site as normal. My ratings went from 120K ish to around 60-80K ish which goes to show how accurate that is!

Robert Charlton




msg:466131
 9:10 am on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

I found this thread in my bookmarks...

How much value to place on Alexa?
[webmasterworld.com...]

It's in the Supporters Forum, so I don't want to reproduce it outside, but for members it's got some good stuff... including the post by Brett about when you can start trusting the numbers.

burf2000




msg:466132
 10:55 am on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sadly I cant access this.

Robert Charlton




msg:466133
 6:30 am on Jan 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sadly I cant access this.

I can only encourage you to become a WebmasterWorld supporter. It's well worth it, and member support keeps this amazing community going.

old_expat




msg:466134
 8:18 am on Jan 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

"Sadly I cant access this."

"I can only encourage you to become a WebmasterWorld supporter. It's well worth it, and member support keeps this amazing community going."

Robert, IMO, you're sort of perpetuating an "us" vs "them" situation when you post a link to a thread in the supporters section here in the public section.

Robert Charlton




msg:466135
 9:06 am on Jan 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Robert, IMO, you're sort of perpetuating an "us" vs "them" situation when you post a link to a thread in the supporters section here in the public section

Not my intention at all. It's a link that would be helpful for members who are also supporters who might be following this thread. It hit me when I posted it that not everyone would be able to access it, so I thought it best just to acknowledge that and to encourage members to join.

A goodly part of WebmasterWorld activity, I should add, really does take place in the public section... but, for obvious reasons, material that's unique to the Supporters section needs to stay there.

I don't want to get into a discussion about the Supporters forum, incidentally, but the proper place for it in any case is in the Community Center, not here.

burf2000




msg:466136
 9:53 am on Jan 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

After a little while for getting used to the forum, I cant see why I wound not join!

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