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Search Engine Operator's Top Pet Peeves
dataguy




msg:461003
 3:08 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

As a search engine operator, I sometimes get frustrated when I have to deal with people that don't quite grasp the concept of search. I've started keeping a list of my top pet peeves and decided that I'd share it.

People who think that if 1 web site is good, then 50 domain names for the same web site is 50 times better.

People who complain about misspellings in their listing, when the text of their listing comes straight from their web page.

People who complain that their framed pages and Flash pages (that contain no text) can't be found in the search results.

People who complain that their listing doesn't come up with a search of "divorce attorney" and then threaten to sue when you tell them that the words "divorce" and "attorney" need to be on their web page.

Free web hosts and free domain redirection.

Dollar Randomizers.

People who submit the URL to search results from another search engine. (I still can't figure out why they do this, it can't possibly be for improved link popularity, can it?)

People who submit the URL of the submission page instead of the URL of the web site they want to add to the search index.

People who think if they take a page and change the name of the country/province/state in the URL then it qualifies as a new web page.

People who submit the checkout page to their web site with a full shopping cart, thinking that when someone clicks the link, they will complete the purchase. (You'd be surprised at how often people try this!)

People who use the phrases "the best website in the World...." and "the most popular website ever...." for their web site that they have hosted at geocities.

People who submit the default page of their web host when they first get a new hosting account. ("If you see this page, you must replace it with a new home.htm")

People who leave the title on every web page of their web site "New Page 1".

I know there are a lot of other se operators that frequent this forum, do you have anything to add?

 

AWillemsen




msg:461004
 2:02 pm on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

People who complain that they can't find their personal or company site in the results when they search for their first name (funnily enough, these complaints seem to come from people called Pamela, Jenna, etc).

jmccormac




msg:461005
 2:36 pm on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Coming soon websites.
Hosters who redirect client "coming soon" websites to their own front page.
Sites without robots.txt
User subbed sites that cannot be spidered.
Sites consisting of only of SERPs.
Sites that are only Dmoz clones.

Regards...jmcc

RFranzen




msg:461006
 4:40 pm on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

It's interesting how close your peeves are to those of a web directory editor. :)

-- Rich

jmccormac




msg:461007
 10:22 am on Oct 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Some search engine operators are also web directory operators. :) The same problems affect both types of sites.Though interestingly, a lot of search engines now have directories as well.

Regards...jmcc

Dave_A




msg:461008
 5:13 am on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

I hate the search queries that are repeated over and over, as if new data will be found.
I had one guy search for an adult search term thirty eight times within four minutes.
He then rounded off his searches with one for "128 dollar note!"?
I can't understand what the last one was looking for..

[edited by: engine at 8:59 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2004]

internetheaven




msg:461009
 7:12 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

I had one guy search for "Porn" thirty eight times within four minutes.

I don't know about you but I've found alot of searches being done where the search text just sickens me. I just don't understand it sometimes ...

My pet peeve? When a large site begs and begs and begs for a direct feed for their dynamically generated site only to place all the wrong info in all the wrong places .... and then complain that "I couldn't just sort it out at my end" ...

dataguy




msg:461010
 7:26 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

>> My pet peeve? When a large site begs and begs and begs for a direct feed for their dynamically generated site only to place all the wrong info in all the wrong places .... and then complain that "I couldn't just sort it out at my end" ...

I haven't provided feeds for anyone willingly.... about a month ago I did notice a jump in search queries, which I thought was great until I discovered that it was the result of someone adding me to their "meta" search site...

phaze




msg:461011
 7:49 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)


I haven't provided feeds for anyone willingly.... about a month ago I did notice a jump in search queries, which I thought was great until I discovered that it was the result of someone adding me to their "meta" search site...

dataguy, I run a meta-search engine. Why do you have a problem with being meta-searched?

dataguy




msg:461012
 9:21 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

dataguy, I run a meta-search engine. Why do you have a problem with being meta-searched?

No problem here if the arrangement is agreed to by both parties. Most SE's prohibit this in their TOS, as I do. Otherwise, scraping an SE is no different than scraping any other web site for content and then giving credit. It's nice to get credit, but if it's in violation of the TOS it's wrong.

phaze




msg:461013
 10:09 pm on Oct 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Fair enough dataguy.

Internetheaven, question: What do you mean by a direct feed? You mean an API for your search engine that a site can tap into? Or are you feeding them search results for inclusion in their content? Or have I completely lost the plot?

The reason I ask is that we negotiate deals with various sites to put our search engine on their pages (like google does with AOL) and right now we're using iframes to put our search on someone's page, which is very clumsy. The alternative is that we host their search powered by us under our own domain name - something like clientdomain.ourdomain.com - which our clients dont like. So we're exploring alternatives.

I assume Google just puts a server on the clients site?

m.

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