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Way Back Machine and Javascript
archiving java/google adsense problems?
techiemon

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Msg#: 1441 posted 1:49 am on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

This thread [webmasterworld.com...] is old and has been locked so I have started a new topic.

According to [archive.org...] it seems that those sites using Javascript are difficult to archive. I have noticed that once I put up Google Adsense on my pages they stopped being archived. I am wondering if those of you who are using Google Adsense are experiencing the same issues adn if you have found a way to resolve it?

"Javascript -- Javascript elements are often hard to archive, but especially if they generate links without having the full name in the page. Plus, if javascript needs to contact the originating server in order to work, it will fail when archived. " - From the Internet Archive Website.

 

jomaxx

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Msg#: 1441 posted 2:02 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Last I looked, all sites were way out of date on the Wayback Machine. The standard AdSense code should work fine from there anyway, although there's a good chance it would only show PSA's.

techiemon

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Msg#: 1441 posted 2:23 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Before I put adsense on my sites they were archived with no problem, now they won't. Very strange. Are there any other internet archieve services like way back machine?

nyet

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Msg#: 1441 posted 2:23 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just curious, why do you care about the wayback machine so much? Seems nearly as useless as Alexa to me.

richmondsteve

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Msg#: 1441 posted 2:33 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

techiemon, I can't verify the issue first-hand (though none of my sites w/ or w/out AdSense have been archived in a while), but if you want your sites archived there have you considered cloaking for their user agent and/or bot IPs?

techiemon

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Msg#: 1441 posted 2:34 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Copyright issues.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 1441 posted 3:18 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Again, it's got nothing to do with AdSense because (a) most sites of ANY kind haven't been freshly cached since mid-2003, (b) the Javascript issue won't prevent a site from being cached, it simply may cause some functionality to not work, and (c) the AdSense code would work anyway so the point is moot.

Several search engines cache the current version of a page, but the only longterm cache I can think of is the Wayback Machine.

Jenstar

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Msg#: 1441 posted 3:22 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Right now, archive.org is running on a 12 month schedule, so you are going to see nothing more recent for most sites than June 2003. Some high traffic sites are running on a 6 month schedule.

AdSense for regular publishers began in late June 2003, so it is just showing up in the archive now. And archive.org doesn't seem to have any problem with AdSense - the javascript executes perfectly, and even shows targeted ads. And the publisher ID is still the site owner's ID (archive.org is not overwriting it with their own).

If your site is showing June 2003 as the last date available in the archive, it is right where it should be. And if you have a site with the traffic of CNN, it will be showing the archived versions through the end of 2003.

Sunflux

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Msg#: 1441 posted 9:53 pm on Jun 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yup - June here as well. I didn't add AdSense until the fall.

Although I've never understood why they archive the same site several times in a single week, or even multiple times in one day.

loanuniverse

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Msg#: 1441 posted 3:33 am on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

My site's 6/21/03 archive has adsense code in it, and it works when looking at it from the archive.

Cool. Sadly the banner exchanges that I joined in 1998 are not working :)

papamaku

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Msg#: 1441 posted 7:44 am on Jun 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

One of my sites has its last cache on 23 june 2003, and has Adsense on it.

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