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Mooter
Brett_Tabke




msg:466402
 1:22 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

New crawling, full indexing engine with what appears on the outset to be: promise:

[mooter.com...]

I kinda a like it. It is a very impressive start! (it's one of those clustering/kartoo like engines)

[mooter.com...]

"Users shouldn't have to work hard to find what they want. Mooter sets out to solve the problems of most search engines by understanding the psychology of how users interact with information.

"Mooter analyses the choices you make while searching, then reorders the results based on what you are actually looking for at that moment without you having to go back and rephrase your exact needs."

So instead of giving users long lists of scrambled results, Mooter displays simple, sensible categories of information. As users search, the algorithms shuffle the results in the background, ensuring that more relevant results are displayed.


 

korkus2000




msg:466403
 1:23 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Like the logo. Any background on it?

Brett_Tabke




msg:466404
 1:23 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

[mooter.com...]

Mooter is backed by a combination of private, government, and venture capital funding. The company has also been awarded a coveted Federal Government Research and Development Grant to build innovative technology. It has offices in Queensland and New South Wales

engine




msg:466405
 1:52 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Interesting - seems to work on the ten tests I just ran through it.

tolachi




msg:466406
 2:07 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

The wait time on searches is deadly. I was almost too impatient to wait out the first phrase I typed in. The way they organize the info is brilliant though. The categories they have really represent my market well. Plus I have #1 rankings for my favorite keywords. I'm glad that a search engine finally go that right.

If they can get rid of the wait time I think it is awesome. Maybe some sort of caching is in store.

Nick_W




msg:466407
 2:09 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Slow though with the 'grouping your results'....

Nick

Imaster




msg:466408
 2:09 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Good concept, but pretty lousy compared to Google. They need to improve on speed, otherwise a great search engine.

richardb




msg:466409
 2:37 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hehe love the little slogans top right.

Mine "A moot a day keeps google away."

Rich

HyperGeek




msg:466410
 2:37 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I like the idea, but it would be better organized in rows or columns instead of that oddball branching system.

I agree that it needs the speed most of all - maybe getting rid of those loading bars and scattered layout might help speed the page up a few seconds.

bcolflesh




msg:466411
 2:40 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

They should consider validating the interface pages as well:

validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmooter.com%3A8080%2Fmoot

mack




msg:466412
 2:41 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think it would be great if they just offered a general web search then offered you the option to expand into the clusters.

Looks very impressive though.

Mack.

Shak




msg:466413
 2:45 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

not everyday you see a CEOs mobile phone number on their contact us page ;)

and their mission statement page is quite nice.

Shak

mat




msg:466414
 2:50 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

As above, speed has it dead in the water at the moment. I too like the results, but I think they've got the drilling the wrong way round - some great results that are too hidden.

penfold25




msg:466415
 2:59 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Fantastic search engine, like the logo, color and interface.
The clustering is fantastic i guess for one word and maybe two word combinations. Anymore than that should go straight to results because the clusters can be irrelevant.

Improve the speed and it be nice search engine.

Webwork




msg:466416
 2:59 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Google is faster but Google also throws everything into the same basket and you have to spend time sorting it out, so is Google actually a faster (more efficient) search tool? Actually, in the end, Google may be slower.

I can see how it's worth the wait. The system is asking "Did you mean this, or is this what you actually want?"

Interesting concept. Now go index a few billion pages and see if the system slows down.

amznVibe




msg:466417
 3:25 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Australian Mooter takes on Google (ZDnet Australia) [zdnet.co.uk]

New search engine eyes Google (B&T) [bandt.com.au]

Search engine revs up (Herald Sun) [heraldsun.news.com.au] <-- best one IMHO

The Zambian-born, South African-educated but "fiercely patriotic" Australian today launches Mooter Search, an artificial intelligence-backed search engine designed to adjust your searches as they are done.

Ms Capper, 34, has set high expectations for her Mooter.com.au business. She is not just aiming to make it Australia's number one search engine, but aims to steal the best value surfers from American giants such as Google and Yahoo.

[edited by: amznVibe at 5:19 pm (utc) on Oct. 21, 2003]

gibbon




msg:466418
 3:27 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

very slow, could be mooting quicker.

prob all the webmasters from here giving it a test drive ;)

curlykarl




msg:466419
 3:29 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can't get it to load here (UK)? :(

Karl

penfold25




msg:466420
 3:45 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

gosh, im kind of embarressed these ppl are from australia.
"New search engine eyes Google" article promotes me actually not to use it.

Fact is why dont they work hard producing the best possible search engine without having to publicise it everywhere?

I find getting press for a search engine is unproactive, especially to an experienced searcher like me.

I found out google by word of mouth and for its good reputation, although it looks nice ,there results should speak for themselves, which of course take 10 years to work out, also clustered results are on vivisimo etc, not very new stuff really...

They should of slowly built up, slowly partnered, actually talked to some real webmasters in the know and actually developed.

Its good we know they are there, but id prefer someone find it then media print it out.

Kandevil




msg:466421
 3:55 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can get the corp page up, but can't get the main page to load (UK too).

iThink




msg:466422
 3:59 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can't reach index page. They can't beat google with this. Google's main advantage was/is speed.

amznVibe




msg:466423
 4:12 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm curious where they are getting their data. I can't find their general IP block in any of my sites' logs but all my sites are in there. I guess they own other blocks.

rcjordan




msg:466424
 4:18 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Can't reach index page.

Ditto. Looks like we broke it.

Chndru




msg:466425
 4:22 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ditto. Looks like we broke it.

looks like it's time to invent something along the lines of slashdotted/slash effect ;)

claus




msg:466426
 4:36 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

- sure has been WebmasterWorld'ed ;)

4crests




msg:466427
 4:36 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

oh sure, tease us.

wish i could at least see it.

amznVibe




msg:466428
 4:45 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Their "chief technical officer" appears to have been a research student at this school at some point Neural and Vision Systems Group [comp.mq.edu.au] and has (co)written a few intense papers listed here [comp.mq.edu.au]. Definitely not a newbie in any sense, I can find papers and AI info posted by him going back to 1991 on the usenet (including some personal stuff he may want to remove from Google ;) )

[edited by: amznVibe at 5:05 pm (utc) on Oct. 21, 2003]

jeremy goodrich




msg:466429
 4:46 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can't get to it, either. Perhaps everybody at WebmasterWorld this morning decided to give it a spin? :)

dirkz




msg:466430
 5:00 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Why do they try to redirect to port 8080? This is very unusual and keeps users out.

EquityMind




msg:466431
 5:08 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Page cannot be displayed" - thanks guys!

I'll give it a whirl later...

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