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Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 1144 posted 1:22 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

New crawling, full indexing engine with what appears on the outset to be: promise:

[mooter.com...]

I kinda a like it. It is a very impressive start! (it's one of those clustering/kartoo like engines)

[mooter.com...]

"Users shouldn't have to work hard to find what they want. Mooter sets out to solve the problems of most search engines by understanding the psychology of how users interact with information.

"Mooter analyses the choices you make while searching, then reorders the results based on what you are actually looking for at that moment without you having to go back and rephrase your exact needs."

So instead of giving users long lists of scrambled results, Mooter displays simple, sensible categories of information. As users search, the algorithms shuffle the results in the background, ensuring that more relevant results are displayed.


 

Yidaki

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Msg#: 1144 posted 5:19 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Could you all please stop mooting for a second so that i can test moot too? ;P

Doesn't load from Europe.

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Msg#: 1144 posted 5:23 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

"it's dead Jim" - you know if you look at the Google cache, their commented-out form code uses a Java applet. You think they are crazy enough to build a major engine on Java?

Fruit and Veg

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Msg#: 1144 posted 5:51 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Mooter's playing hard to get from Michigan too - the cheeky little Aussie minx.

The Subtle Knife

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Msg#: 1144 posted 6:01 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

what?

I can't see it, so it's useless so far.

BUT, let's bet to see if Google will buy it or not?

That's the question!

So in effect are google like Microsoft and Pacman,
just buy and eat up the competition?

tbear

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Msg#: 1144 posted 6:10 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Got me dribbling there for a moment...........
Can't get on from Spain either...
Hope I remember to try later.
Is there no-one from mooter on this board Strange ;)

MarkHutch

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Msg#: 1144 posted 6:23 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I got it this morning, but now it's dead from Texas. I ran a search this morning and after five minutes of waiting for the results from one search I gave up.

<update>I can get their main index page to load and I can't believe they are using a meta refresh tag to forward people to another URL.


<html>
<head>
<title></title>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=http://mooter.com:8080/moot">
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html>

I didn't know anyone used these anymore.

[edited by: MarkHutch at 6:29 pm (utc) on Oct. 21, 2003]

Ally_Cat

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Msg#: 1144 posted 6:25 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yup, it's good and broken. It's been WebmasterWorld'ed for sure.

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Msg#: 1144 posted 6:31 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I thought they only crawled down under.

oooh, that tickels!

mayor

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Msg#: 1144 posted 7:59 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Great search engine 'till y'all broke it!

bignet

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:09 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can get the corp page up, but can't get the main page to load (UK too).

Define: GeoMissing

mcavill

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:13 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

she's back - at least from the UK

Chndru

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:15 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld'ed

Sure am hoping to get something a little more creative from ya'll.

TGecho

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:36 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Finally got it up. Speed's not that bad. Interesting, but I don't like all the javascript. In fact, it doesn't work without javascript. Period.

Not good.

But why? To take a load off his server? That port redirection isn't terribly impressive either.

Oh well, have to keep an eye on this one, sure has potential.

Chris_D

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:37 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Seems to work fine for me here in Sydney.

killroy

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:39 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

the WebmasterWorld-Effect :)

SN

sanity

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:45 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can't get to it from Melbourne (Australia)

BlueSky

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:51 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Supposedly the cluster arrangements is how our brain really thinks not linear like is forced upon us by today's computers. There's another search engine that took a similar approach, and IMO does a much better job. I cannot remember the name of it though. :o(

The speed is okay for me. If a person has cookies blocked and is using a dynamic IP, this SE does not work. It produces this error on every click: Invalid session id. Seems to depend on javascript being enabled too.

Chris_D

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Msg#: 1144 posted 9:53 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey Sophie - that'd bee the 'south of Albury' filter kicking in, I'd reckon.....

: )

Chris_D

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:10 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't like the 2-step search.

Like Mack said - offer quick SERPs with the option to refine.

Time is money!

TGecho

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:13 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Take a look at their company pages. That's exactly what they want to "fix". Whether or not you agree is a different matter.

sanity

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:17 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hey Chris, good to see you! Us Melbournites always get short changed eh :)

Still it'd be nice to see what everyone's talking about. Sigh.

Serio

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:18 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks Brett

I love a birth...

neo_brown

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:20 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I dont like the way it serves results. It does not seem to find the most relevant page of your site, it simply lists the domain and ranks your site accordingly or atleast it did for the searches I did.

nicebloke

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:24 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been extremely impressed with some of the grouping I have seen so far.

Nice to see a newcomer from Australia taking on the world.

Go Mooter!

sanity

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:32 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just got on and I quite like it. It's certainly different.

Thanks for heads up Brett.

sanity

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:35 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

It does not seem to find the most relevant page of your site, it simply lists the domain and ranks your site accordingly or atleast it did for the searches I did.

I've done a couple of searches where it's bought up internal site pages.

Yidaki

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:35 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Finally loading fine. Pretty fast. The clustering visualization is a bit confusing but pretty neat to play with. No serious competition yet to G or the known cluster engines though imo. How big is their index?

mcavill

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:38 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

it certainly clusters it's results differently to vivisimo.com but occasionally displays a single site as a node, which threw me - but fair play to them - introducing more/different AI into search has got to be a good thing

neo_brown

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:38 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ok I must admit I did see some internal pages (2 in the top ten for my keywords) but I know for my domain and my competitors, there are far more relevant pages for my key words yet they are not shown. Maybe I just dont like it as it lists me 4th while im 1 on google, lets hope it does not catch on.

petra

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Msg#: 1144 posted 10:52 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

Where do they get their results from?

Chndru

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Msg#: 1144 posted 11:12 pm on Oct 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

i think it is slow, since it searches for all the clusters. If you click on the second or third page results (it loads them fast). This algo might need some optimization tune-ups ;)

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