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Is it too late for Any search engine to beat Google?!
Just a thought...

 4:59 am on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I was just wondering , If any search engine CAN beat Google , I mean ATW has come close to beating it but Google flew off and now has 5 billion , when ATW reaches till 5 billion, Google will have more... This will go on and of course Google will be the best search engine.

And I think MSN's new search can't beat Google because Google has worked "at it" for 7 years and now this new MSNbot comes along and thinks it can beat Google AFAIK , MSNbot has only been "at it" for about 1 year or so.

So any search engine's can beat Google but they need time , as Google keeps rising up and 1 of the most advantage Google has is the time, 7 years...

I'm not meaning in Traffic or richness in the search engine's but in the size and quality that google has.

I think MSNbot can only beat Google if it has a different , unique , better technology and any search engine can beat Google if has a different fast web crawling technology.

(Its all IMHO)but what do you guys think?




 5:10 am on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

The same thing was said about other search engines when they were top dogs. The same thing was said about Netscape and Mosaic browsers. Of course Google can be beat. The amount of time doing SE doesn't matter at all. Google came from nowhere and took over the market. The same thing could very easily happen to them.

As for size, who cares if it's 3 billion or 5 billion. As for quality, I think they have gone downhill myself.


 1:15 pm on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I personally think that if microsoft wanted to, which they may do in the future, they could absolutely flatten Google.

Alltheweb did come close and I think that with more marketing to the average user, they Ścould be/can beŚ bettter than Google.

Google definitely can be beat.


 1:40 pm on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

MS can easily embed SE into windows. And Joe Average will use it instead of Google, because it will be more convinient.


 4:12 pm on Sep 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Google flew off and now has 5 billion

What? Where did you take that number from. On the Google
homepage the number is still: 3,307,998,701


 4:00 am on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

That is probably , because Google hasn't updated the index page...

Try a query for the keyword: "the" (without quotation) and it will return with 5,220,000,000 results , keeping in mind that this is only for the query "the"



 8:29 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Try a query for the keyword: "the" (without quotation) and it will return with 5,220,000,000 results , keeping in mind that this is only for the query "the"

Is there any pressrelease or statements from Google backing this up? On the difference between the www and the www2 server on this guery is 2 billion!

jeremy goodrich

 8:34 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's a bug, has been happenening on & off.

Last month, Brett said he saw, "90 billion" pages returned for some query.

Should we go & say then that Google has surpassed the 90 billion mark? Hardly.

Believe the number on their home page, if you care too. They could be lying about that one, but who knows?

Kaltix.com -> better tech, faster computation of PageRank, and bleeding edge stanford researchers in on the whole thing.

Who ever scoops them up, will have a great shot at dethroning Google, provided they do the rest of it right.

In addition, there is always Yuntis - take a gander at them, very nicly done, university research project as well, starts at the same "root research" that the Google founders leveraged.


 5:04 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

For a company like Google, they should not lie about it, and anyway this is not just an "Ordinary" bug, and any search engine researcher can notice it, I think they should fix it.



 5:19 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

The way Google has been consistently adding quality and features on a truely international scale, market share wise, I'd say Google can potentialy only be beaten by an embedded MS-Windows search.

If I had money to spare I'd buy long-term put options on Yahoo.

Watch Google IPO before Microsoft launches its embedded Windows search.


 9:06 am on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Quick reply, no it will never be too late in this instance and in any other.

Dominance is "never for all time" or Ghengis Khan would still rule large parts of the world, or the Romans, Rockerfeller, IBM, various empires, name your preference etc ..

As with everything in life

When you reach the top, the only way is down.

Its just a question of when and how.


 12:37 pm on Sep 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just curious but when did AllTheweb come close?
I never heard much about it from friends/family coworkers here in the states.


 4:25 am on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)


I don't know how you didn't hear about it, It was all over the news...


 7:21 am on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

Personally i think Google is inviting the competition at the moment - it's not the number of pages indexed, it's about what gets returned to the searcher.

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