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EAHunt




msg:429360
 9:25 pm on Sep 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

I have a client that is in a niche service industry and has links to a lot of business associations, industry specific newsgroups, and individuals who have favorite "industry specific" links pages.

He has about 300 different links to these different places. I told him that from what I understand, if these people that he links to would link back to him, it may help to raise his ranking.

The links are not specific to his software business, but it is specific to the industry in general. For instance, a safety device company that sells to the same industry would recommend him to his customers by linking to him.

As a neophite, I feel that this is the last unconquered frontier for me, and it still seems strange to ask your competition to add you as a link. I just haven't grasped that. But the idea of having the industry associations and others add him seems more realistic. Is this true?

I have no idea why this business is so mysterious.

 

Marcia




msg:429361
 9:46 pm on Sep 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

It makes sense, EAHunt. There are companies that develop software in an industry like construction, so they'd be associated with a lot of different related trades.

This is the Reciprocal Linkage forum, and if you browse through past threads you'll find more information than you could possibly use in a year, including some great tips on how to go about asking for the reciprocal links, which a lot of people find to be the hardest part.

Definitely worth a good, thorough read through.

Thomas




msg:429362
 6:06 am on Sep 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Your competition(if their smart) will link back to you if you send a well written request. The reason is that your competition needs to achieve link popularity as much as you do! Google seems to have designed this aspect of their algorithm in order to force webmasters into a never-ending competition for linkbacks, which in turn gives Google the quality search results their customers want AND has them headed for a Bill Gates type of bottom-line!

fathom




msg:429363
 6:18 am on Sep 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

Totally agree with Thomas. Although most would refuse to link to a direct competitor, I believe it is a strategically sound method of competitor/partner control.

Let's face it, these web sites in themselves are a direct extension of our own and the "themes" (in most cases) match perfectly.

I would rather have a competitor competiting at ranked position 1 - 10 that has a link to me than 9 others that have nothing to do with me.

An online merger (web site merger) isn't that much different than an offline one.

Just make sure the link going out is of equal value to the one coming in.

roots




msg:429364
 8:43 am on Sep 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

How smart is to cloak links to my competition and ask them to link back to me?

Reflect




msg:429365
 1:39 pm on Sep 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi Roots,

Welcome to Webmaster World!

How smart is to cloak links to my competition and ask them to link back to me?

This is just me. When swapping links I verify that the other site did in fact put up a link to me. I also view the link page with Google toolbar to see what it's status is. I also look at the link structure. I also after one month repeat. I also after six months repeat. If at any time things change I email the webmaster to see why. If I do not like their response I remove the link from my site. I keep my link exchanges in an Excel spreadsheet for organization.

Jst my .02

Brian

roots




msg:429366
 9:39 am on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ok, but how do you link to competition... do you cloak, do you use keywords in link, and how many of them "know what they need" from you?

[edited by: Marcia at 6:27 pm (utc) on Sep. 13, 2002]
[edit reason] no URLs please [/edit]

martinibuster




msg:429367
 1:41 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

I, for one, can't see my competition linking to me. I wouldn't want to help them. And I'm sure some of them wouldn't dream of helping me, especially because I may be outdistancing them in the serps.

Reflect




msg:429368
 3:00 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ok, but how do you link to competition... do you cloak, do you use keywords in link, and how many of them "know what they need" from you?

We might be a little different. I do not link with DIRECT competetors but people who sell things in the same genre which I do not carry. In this case I ask them to give me a keyword laden text link. I point them to a page that I created with several logos links, text based links and let them choose which one they would prefer to use. So far it seems to work pretty good. I have one dimaond dealer who gives me almost as much traffic as some of the SEs. She states the same for me. On this we are now trying to come to terms on an afiliate exchange. I would of course come out ahead as her items are 10 fold the price that mine are ;).

Brian

geranimo




msg:429369
 6:05 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

After two + months of learning SEO it seems I know less then when I started!. My question is.. I have a number of sites targeting different venues.. i.e.: Sports, Theatre etc.. I recently added links to each site on all the main pages stating visit our network of sites. Will this cause undesirable results or will it actually help with this link popularity thing?

martinibuster




msg:429370
 8:23 pm on Sep 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Speaking for myself, I like to stay as safe as possible. It's probably ok, as long as you have many other links coming in from other web sites.

But if you are in doubt, the best way to do it is to use a javascript jump menu labeled like, "Our friends." That way, you encourage traffic between the sites, but the spiders won't find them.

:) Y

Digimon




msg:429371
 2:48 am on Sep 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Let me say something. Every time I check my keywords I can see behind me in the SERPS a site owned by a network with a heavy crosslinking between their sites. More than 2K of links between 16 sites owned by the same corporation. Perhaps not from each page but near to it (all of them pointing to the home page of the other 15 sites). They have been in google from the beguining and stay there ranking pretty well for my keywords and keyrods related. Maybe they have another 2K of links from diferent sites with low PR wich are not shown in the SERP for "link: any-of-this-sites" but, even in that extreme and strange case I think it should be considered as crosslinking spam, for sure. They stay there.

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