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Google Cross link Penalty
rudy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 381 posted 2:08 pm on May 31, 2002 (gmt 0)

What's the penalty if google finds 20 or so sites sitting on the same Ip crosslinked?

Will I be ok on the next index if I uncross them for the next crawl?

 

ciml

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Msg#: 381 posted 10:08 am on Jun 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

> What's the penalty if google finds 20 or so sites sitting on the same Ip crosslinked?

Well rudy, it probably depends on what you mean by crosslinked. If each of the 20 sites links to each of the other 19, then your network sounds very similar to those that were given the "PR0" penalty (where Google ignores all incoming links to that page/domain). The site search [searchengineworld.com] will probably give you rather more information than you require if you search for PR0 or PageRank zero. This is because it's sometimes hard to tell what's happening, because people often mistakingly think they have a penalty for a particular reason (or at all); and because the exact rules are complex (and not just about crosslinking, though it seems to be the most common element).

Google don't want people to learn their automatic penalty rules and bypass them for spam. One thing I'm pretty sure about is that you would not be protected if you had 20 different IPs. There have been reasons to suspect that IPs might come into automatic penalties, but I personally do not believe that Google does this.

> Will I be ok on the next index if I uncross them for the next crawl?

If you have been given an automatic penalty (i.e. the Toolbar PageRank graph is all white, even though pages with good PageRank link to the exact same URL) then it's hard to say how long you'll keep it. Some people have been getting their PageRank back pretty quickly recently, others have waited a long time.

If you are missing (i.e. the Toolbar PageRank graph is grey, you don't come up in the searches at all and a search for your domain comes up with "Sorry, no information is available for the URL ...") then it's most likely not a penalty. One thing to check is whether a search for your domain includes the text "If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link". If it does, then it's not likely to be a penalty.

Calum

papabaer

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Msg#: 381 posted 2:31 am on Jun 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hello rudy, ciml has given some good advise: this is NOT an area where you want to do something that "seems" like a "quick and easy" way to accumulate links.

By all means take the time to do the search that ciml suggests... if you feel the hairs begin to rise on the back of your neck, and your stomach gets all queasy... then you have learned how dangerous this practice can be.

rudy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 381 posted 3:58 am on Jun 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

All the new sites that were crosslinked are indexed on google. They look properly indexed except the only way to find each of them is by typing in
www.mynewsite1.com and www.mynewsite2.com

It seems that there is no way to find my crosslinked sites by typing in keywords even the entire indexed listing word for word. For instance
"Jewelry Sale - Super Auction of finest european jewelry custom and delivered in 5 days."

If I were to type the entire exact quote above in the search term I still do not get my site returned in the results.

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