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I'm trying to get a link from a PR5 site

 9:23 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hello everyone.
I'm trying to get a link from this site that has a PR5 with Google(for home page). The page they're hopefully gonna put my link on has a PR0. I was wondering: am I gonna get penalized for that? Does Google take into consideration the home page's ranking only or the PR0 page's too?
Thank you.
Dan Popescu



 10:02 pm on May 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

google takes into account the PR of the page that links to you.
PR is about webpages not websites

however the overall theme of the site linking to you might help over and above the PR factor


 4:12 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Truth is no one is going to put my link on their home page and I've noticed that even if a site has a good or very good PR the links page rarely has a good PR.
Again I'd like to ask the Google guy: please tell me whether or not my PR would hurt due to the poor rank the page that has a link pointing to my site has(it's actually PR0).
Thanks, Dan


 5:40 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)


As the previous answer stated, the value of a link depends on the page, not the site.

How do you know that the page has a PR of zero? If it is from the Google toolbar it may be misleading, the PR shown for interior pages is not precise.

However, if it really is a PR zero page then the link will be pretty much worthless.


 8:17 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Yes 4eyes, it's from the tool bar(PR0). How can I verify if it's the correct PR? So you think it's worthless. But most links pages that are part of a PRhigh site have a low PR.
Anyways, if it's worthless it's not so bad, but could it harm my PR in some way?
Thanks, Dan


 9:31 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Yes 4eyes, it's from the tool bar(PR0).

Dan, how about the rest of the site - is it also PR0, except for the homepage? And is the page that'll be linking to you part of a "directory" on the site that's all PR0?

>How can I verify if it's the correct PR?

There's no way to verify it exactly. If it's been up a while, you can assume it's reasonably close.

If it's brand new and not indexed yet, it's a toolbar guess. However, I just checked only two PR5 sites that each have pages that are brand new that haven't been indexed yet, and for those pages the toolbar guess is PR3 (based on the PR5 of the homepage most likely).

So the PR0 value back to you of that page you're looking at is highly questionable, and it's not impossible that it's one that's been penalized in recent months - some have had PR to the index page restored and internal pages still retain the PR0 penalty. Without any way to verify whether it's a penalty, and as of now no PR benefit back to you, I'd personally pass on it unless it would have tremendous value to site visitors. And even then, it might be wise to think twice, especially if your site is new with little to counter-balance linking into what could be a bad neighborhood.

Google doesn't counsel us which individual sites to link to or not, but we have been warned about linking into bad neighborhoods, and we've got enough information to be able to exercise caution, which I'd do in this case.


 10:11 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hi Marcia.
The rest of the site has a fair rank-PR4-5. I've noticed that the links page is part of some unique directory. And it has a PR0.
I asked them to just remove my link-they already added it. I was wondering-can't the "bad guys" sabotage your business by adding links to your site on their penalized pages?
Thanks, Dan


 11:27 pm on May 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

>the links page is part of some unique directory. And it has a PR0.
That looks to be the answer on its worth for PR, Dan.

It's been stated that what others do can't hurt your site, but some express doubts about that. I wouldn't worry much about one link pointing to you, though unless there's a chance of a LOT of traffic coming through that link I wouldn't chance linking back.

Sure, the homepage has PR5 from the sites linking to it, but it's apparently not giving any back from that directory. That's the inequity of these situations, and often they're promoted by promising high rankings for link popularity.


 9:02 pm on May 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks Marcia and everyone. You've been a lot of help. I'll be careful from now on.


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