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Mass emailing of potential link partners
Who is doing it and how?
Roni_Size




msg:426221
 2:35 am on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

How do you guys send out thousands of emails looking for link partners and asking webmasters to trade links with you?

Won't you get banned by your ISP?

Do you use a script that runs from your website?

How is it done?

..

 

The_Banker




msg:426222
 12:00 pm on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's done by using Link Extracting Robots. Trouble is these downloadable tools can't target the mailings, which is just a pointless exercise. Any campaign needs to be targeted to have the best success. You'll have more success extracting emails manually by a search engine, at least you can extract whatever address you need by subject eg: Job site contact details.

It's been proven time and time again that gaining links is time costly, you might as well get something viral designed and do it that way. It takes the effort away and frees up major time for you.

Roni_Size




msg:426223
 8:33 pm on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

I understand that,

but how do you actually mail the people?

If i was to send out 5,000 emails in a day looking for Link Parners, i will surely get banned by my isp, or my host (if i use a web based php mailing script).

The_Banker




msg:426224
 9:23 pm on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)


No, you won't get banned. Banning is for scammers that repeatedly spam millions every year using auto software. They get too many complaints and thus end up in court and are usually doing something very illegal or nasty - we are talking about you doing normal sales emails yes? - there's nothing wrong with that.

The sales method depends on who you are mailing, potential link swaps or clients. Links swaps don't matter how you mail really, chances are these guys are just webmasters with a small site and they'll pretty much link with anybody who'll give them the time of day, so don't worry about 'professionalism' too much.

A short email asking for a basic link is fine for that purpose. I use just a bog standard sales letter and it works pretty well.

Clients are a totally different matter. Professionalism is the key because they are much more demanding, and a proper templated sales approach is required to impress. I have my own bulk emailer and seperate database, so it costs me nothing to send thousands of mailings. Outside services can be pricey and restrictive compared to a 'custom built' mailing system. But custom is always better.

The better something looks, the more impact and more success it will have. Whatever you do use K.I.S.S - and don't offer something you can't deliver.

It'll take several attempts to get the sales letter copy right, but more than that, it's about building rapport with clients. Trust is the key.

mister charlie




msg:426225
 11:47 pm on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

If i was to send out 5,000 emails in a day looking for Link Parners, i will surely get banned by my isp, or my host

good. the last thing webmasters need is more canned emails begging for links. you are bound to make more enemies than friends with this approach.

neuron




msg:426226
 2:04 am on Apr 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Mass emailing for links is kind of like walking through a darkened neighborhood throwing rocks at all the houses you pass. I'm not saying you should get hit with a beer bottle or bit by a dog, but if you did that kind of thing on a regular basis, I would not be surprised if such did happen.

email spam a long time ago fell into this unacceptable practices category primarily because there sprouted vigilante groups who organized in a fruitless effort to stop spam, but who take shots at just about anyone that sends one of these activists an unsolicited email.

One of the most likely candidates to file a spam complaint is one of your direct competitors. If you collect sites and emails automatically, and do not review them, you are likely to send some emails to your direct competitors, unless you take extraordinary caution to identify them and exclude them.

GoDaddy has been known to unregister or suspend some domains for sending mass link invitations. Look back through the Forum Library (link is at the top of this page next to "Charter").

There's no substitute for manually reviewing sites. I know of an animal site in a particular State that freely links to other animal sites in that State, and asks for a link from them, but this site specifically states that they will only link to other sites which are about this particular species of animal and in the same State. They further tell you that if you send a link request and you do not qualify, that is, your site is in a different State or is not about that specific species, then they will report you for spam, and they will, too.

Other sites will have more than one email contact posted, one specifically for link exchange, another for sales, and maybe another for customer support. Also, sites that tend to engage in the kind of linking you are seeking, the ones that are serious about it, tend to use online forms for link requests and often state that is the only way they entertain requests. If you send them an email asking for a link, obviously you have not looked at their site very closely. Some may be offended, you might get a spam complaint from some of these sites, too.

You cannot filter sites like that from a spider created database without manually reviewing each and every site, not only for the appropriateness of topic and content, but for the other site's terms and conditions.

I have found that from DBs created by spiders only 1 in 10 sites listed should be contacted by email. 70% of the sites collected will just be inappropriate to request links from, and of the 30% that's left, 2/3rds will prefer online form to email. That means at least 9 out of 10 people that receive your email will not appreciate it, and that will be on your best day. Also, you are likely to get a very small response rate without some personalized email that shows you reviewed the site. Bulk campaigns like this probably have less than 1% success rates. (I really don't know on this, because I've never done mass emails to unreviewed sites.)

There are more reasons not to do this. The main one, which actually supercedes the spam issue, is that you are going to get poor quality links using this method. Why? Because you are not manually reviewing sites. Basically, you'll link to anyone, without discretion, if you send out mass emails to spider-created DBs, and those are the same kinds of sites you'll be getting links from, sites that link without discretion, from sites that are just as desperate for links as you. You end up establishing a footprint that IDs you to a group of sites that cannot be trusted. If you link to a lot of sites that can't be trusted, then you can't be trusted.

So, the reasons not to do mass email link campaigns are:

1. They are not successful (measuring the effect they have on the site in the rankings)
2. They can get your site shut down (having an up site is also a metric of success)
3. It is an abusive and unacceptable practice to many people

How do you guys send out thousands of emails looking for link partners and asking webmasters to trade links with you?

For the most part, sites that engage in link exchange seriously, as a tool to generate link popularity, do not engage in the practice of blindly seeking links, and do not do the kind of mass mailings you are contemplating.

roxyyo




msg:426227
 9:14 pm on Apr 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Oh I hope this is not something you are considering! Don't waste your time. Useless, useless. But if you really want to get poor quality links, participate in a free links exchange program and you'll have all sorts of crummy sites asking you for a link, then you don't have to worry about bothering webmasters that will just hit delete, and YOU can pick and choose. Ball's in your court!

CainIV




msg:426228
 3:24 am on Apr 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

No, you won't get banned. Banning is for scammers that repeatedly spam millions every year using auto software.

Actually, this is totally incorrect. You will get banned trying to send unsolicited email requests to webmasters who do not offer link exchanges on their site - especially after repeated sends

The world of optimization by obtaining hundreds of useless mediocre quality receiprocal links to your site is long gone.

Manually obtain your links. Search DMOZ, and maintain a high criteria of your partners. Contact each manually, write as a real preson. Be specific and to the point. Don't tell them you will link to them once they have linked to you first. Give them a reason to WANT to partner with your site.

Trust me when I say you will benefit in spades from this.

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