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Do article links expire?
Do links from articles posted on directories expire on the search engines?
mc4210




msg:427084
 9:32 pm on Apr 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hello,

I just noticed a sever drop in my backlinks from MSN. It has kept my backlinks from some link-exchange programs but all the backlinks that I had in the "about the author" box of my articles have dissappeared.

I would like to ask if links found on article directories are devalued or expire as far as search engines are concerned after a while. My articles still exist in the directories, it's just the backlinks in the link: query that are missing.

I've searched about "link rot" a bit, but it seems link rot is completely natural and happens when the pages that contain the link dissapear.

One more thing, as I was searching for my articles, I found quite a few occurences of them with all the info and links completely removed, and in one Indian blog, the owner even presented one of my articles as her own, with her own link in the content! I'm starting to feel that article marketing is simply not worth it! Why waste my time trying to write a good informative article when someone will try to manipulate it?

And judging by all the bad press that link directories, reciprocal links and links pages are getting, I'm wondering if there are any effective linking strategies left. Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

 

Bentley007




msg:427085
 12:07 am on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

I can certainly appreciate your dilemma, MC4210. I have been writing 8-12 promotional articles per week for a handful of sites for almost a year now, and I am starting to wonder of there is any point. Yes, articles links are highly devalued! Article directories are the new link farms! They seem to have to more weight in certain engines, but in general my feeling is that they are disposable links. They are great for short-term site establishment, but this is a hopeless strategy for long-term link development. I often wonder why I don't focus on developing more quality content for my sites, instead of giving it away for #*$!e links. I would suggest finding relevent, quality sites in your niche and writing for them in exchange for links. I think we have to be much more creative in our approach to link development in this day and age. Opinions, anyone?

graywolf




msg:427086
 3:41 am on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

You could always write a "full" version for your site and give away a "lite" version to the article directories. Link the lite version to the deep version for some deep links.

buckworks




msg:427087
 3:49 am on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

You'd still need to keep an eye out for copiers, though.

mc4210




msg:427088
 9:47 am on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

So, the only options left for link building is either manually send requests for recips, which means you'll probably end up in a huge "resource" page anyway, or actually paying for them? Any other options?

By the way, I noticed that in a message I found in the library thread of link development (http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum12/2876.htm) someone mentions that he's seen a site getting to the top just by a handfull of articles that were pretty much submitted everywhere possible! I've also heard that from several other sources. Now, that was back in November 2005, so I'm wondering if there have been any changes since that, in the way article links are valued.

Crush




msg:427089
 11:02 am on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

I know people who scape these sites every few seconds for new material. Something new is going to be scraped to hell unless you are writing for non article directories.

getxb




msg:427090
 1:12 pm on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would like to ask if links found on article directories are devalued or expire as far as search engines are concerned after a while.

I think you should try to get your article published in some good relevant sites. Try to publish it in article directories as well. Once done see the results be it in google/yahoo/msn. I hope you will get some pretty good results.

regards,
getxb

sugarrae




msg:427091
 2:12 pm on Apr 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>but all the backlinks that I had in the "about the author" box of my articles

Lets compare apples to apples here. I noticed the same thing this week - but what I saw was *not* article links being "absent" from the backlink query but rather articles from crap and "out of the box" article directory sites being "absent". All the articles on quality sites and in a small portion of the article directories (tended to be the more popular ones) were there. Most of the articles that were up on crap scraper sites who grabbed them *via* article directories were there too (i.e. not published on "article directories").

It's possible they've figured out a way to identify and disclude the crappier, or less useful/linked to/quality article directory sites. It's also possible they aren't showing as complete of a list of backlinks that they used to. Too early to lean either way at the moment for me.

There are two types of article backlinks - those from low value and low quality directories and those from articles that have been published on sites with value that don't just publish anything because someone can fill out a form - but actually have an editorial process and way more to the site that just a directory of *other* people's articles. Well, then there is also the scraper sites - but those are a *seperate* problem the engines need to deal with that are indepdent of articles/backlinks from articles.

>>>So, the only options left for link building

That, or actually earning them. Pounding the pavement to get links for your good content. Be it by people wanting to refer to the unique content on your own site or you writing good content for other quality sites. Yes, this means a lot of time and effort. You'd almost think the search engines didn't want people putting up a ten page site with "unique" but "additional value-less" content and grabbing it a quick 100 links, ranking and then wash, rinse and repeating. ;-)

Article sites weren't a mass link building tool a year ago. And much like everything else, things being abused usually inspire changes in search engine algorithms.

My two cents...

tictoc




msg:427092
 9:59 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing the same thing as sugarrae but I am not seeing the backlinks from the major (more quality) article sites at all in Yahoo or Google backlink checks. I am beginning to think they are not counting these links from any of the article sites.

mrseo




msg:427093
 6:36 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I to write articles weekly. I think over time article links will lose their value..on certain sites.
Article 'warehouse" type of sites will, at some point, have little value. However, if these articles on placed on other sites (non-warehouse) for their "value" and usefulness... I think those links are what the engines will gauge as a good link with value.

debram




msg:427094
 6:55 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

Would it be possible to share the names of a couple of the article directories everyone is seeing links disappear from?

If you had said you noticed links disappearing from Google's results, then I'd get that but from MSN? Weird!

Thanks!
Debra.

Webdetective




msg:427095
 9:11 pm on Apr 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would not expect to gain much link popularity benefit from an article posted within a major article directory, but as other honest webmasters borrow your article as free content for their sites, that's where the real benefit comes from.

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