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Is Requesting a Link by Email SPAM
hibuddy




msg:414135
 8:29 pm on Jan 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am not sure we are talking about requesting links to webmaster from other sites seems to be a one of the best way to improve the back link count?.

But Sometimes that considered as SPAM . Can somebody tell me Is there a way we can avoid it or How others are doing it.

Thanks in advance...

 

Smashing Young Man




msg:414136
 8:34 pm on Jan 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Before I send a link request, I read their site carefully to make sure they don't have an explicit policy against unsolicited link requests. If not, I'll then shoot off an email that is personalized enough for them to know that it wasn't spit out by some auto-generation spam machine.

Doing the above, I've had pretty good success with getting quality links.

diamondgrl




msg:414137
 9:43 pm on Jan 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think the fact is that it is technically spam: it's unsolicited commercial email. However, if you genuinely personalize the email and don't make it look auto-generated (which every request I get is), I think you will find that nobody will complain.

martinibuster




msg:414138
 4:42 pm on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

If they ASK for an email from their website, then technically it's not spam. Many sites have forms to fill out, though.

hibuddy




msg:414139
 2:10 am on Jan 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for all the responses. Can we add a little disclaimer saying that This is not a spam .You can avoid future request by replying etc...

treeline




msg:414140
 3:04 am on Jan 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Umm.... All the SPAM already incudes those requests...

All the Nigerians claim THIS ONE isn't a scam...

Anything threatening like "replying will avoid" is a surefire indicator of spam and triggers the insta-delete reflex.

buckworks




msg:414141
 3:47 am on Jan 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

The biggest things that will/might/maybe keep your email from being perceived as spam are
- the quality of your targeting
- the quality of the letter you write
- the quality of your site, and
- how well you have met the site's terms for link requests, if they have them.

If you fall short in any of those areas, odds are high that someone will label you a spammer. Don't even think about asking for a link unless your site would be strongly relevant to the sites you're approaching.

hibuddy




msg:414142
 5:07 am on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks again.

Can I buy P.O box number from post office and When I send a email to the webmasters .Can I send the email as per CAN SPAM 2003 with PO box so they can opt out If they need.

Is it safe to send it with my PO Box. I want to maintain my infomation and address securely (thats why I have proxy in my Whois database).Please suggest.I have been affect by the spam compliants that why I am trying to be more careful here.

Note:I dont send emails automatically I do it manually.

buckworks




msg:414143
 5:14 am on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

I won't comment on the PO box question, but the post you just made contains quite a few grammar and spelling errors. If the letters you're sending have as many mistakes as that you'll make a VERY bad impression. Don't send out even any more letters unless you get some professional proofreading help.

hibuddy




msg:414144
 11:31 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your reply again.

Usually I am not this bad in English. Just sent it in a hurry.

Any comments on PO box.

treeline




msg:414145
 11:46 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

A decision to give you a link or not will have nothing to do with whether there's a PO Box or not. If they don't like your letter, they won't get that far before they delete it.

A good letter should sound like it's from someone intelligent, well educated and friendly who happens to have a site that's got a strong connection to mine. Anything else, zappo. Saying it has a strong connection to mine generically, zappo. Mentioning what my site is about and why there's a connection (if you got past the first sentences of this paragraph) then I'll click on the link to take a look. If you were lieing, zappo. Or worse, now I've made an effort so maybe I should bother to complain.

If I like the site, it is STRONGLY related to mine, and I like you, then MAYBE I'll add a link. If the email contained threats like "I've added your link, but if you don't add me you'll be deleted..." Zappo right then, read no more words.

You probably don't need to give linking instructions. It looks tacky, spamlike, and anyone with a bit of knowledge already knows how. Surprisingly the ones who don't know how often write back to tell you so. Now you're friends so tell 'em then.

Remember: A good letter should sound like it's from someone intelligent, well educated and friendly who happens to have a site that's got a strong connection to mine. Keep it short and sweet.

arran




msg:414146
 11:51 pm on Jan 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

Very well put treeline.

JollyK




msg:414147
 6:58 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I pretty much have classified almost all link requests as spam at this point, for mostly the following reasons:

I get tons of link requests addressed to an email address which contains "do_not_send_me_link_requests". (Tip 1: Know who you're contacting, and make sure it's an appropriate address.)

Most of the link requests I get are something like, "Hi, we were searching the web for azagrobous fizzpop mileage dusters and we think your site would be a swell addition to our link campaign." Half the time, I don't even know what the heck an "azagrobous fizzpop mileage duster" is, nor how in the green Earth they related it with my site. (Tip 2: Make sure that you actually visit the site, get a feel for what they are and do, and be sure that they are related to your site.)

Most of the link requests I get are obviously mass-software-generated, and the statement "I visited your site and I think ..." are obvious lies. If they had visited the site, there would be no need to send email to "do_not_send_me_link_requests." (Tip 3: Don't use the mass mailing, site-spidering, address-sucking link-generation software. Run google searches on sites with keywords that relate to your own site and actually visit them personally to see if they're appropriate. The software is dumb.)

Almost all of the link requests where they say "I have already added your link" have the aforementioned link on a page that is not reachable from anywhere in their site: you have to know the URL, because they don't link to their links page. (Tip 4: If you have already linked to their site, make it a reasonable link instead of like some huge link directory where you link to everything on the web.)

There is a link on almost every page of my site that says "Email us" and another one that says "Add your site." Anyone emailing me obviously hasn't been to my site at all. (Tip 5: see if the site has a link request policy or an Add/Submit/Request link function. If so, use that.)

This isn't to say that I still wouldn't consider a link request spam, but if someone followed the above "tips", I'd be much more likely to link to them. :-)

JK

ken_b




msg:414148
 7:19 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Spam, not spam, probably mostly depends on the opinion of the receiver.

The ones I get that get a are likely to link from me go something like this....

Hi Ken;

I sell widgets in <location>. Would you consider putting a link on your widget dealers page linking to my site at example.com

Thanks

Name
Business name
business location
phone

The ones that most often get trashed are anything else. Mention link exchange...trash, tell me how important link exchanges are...trash, tell me you've already linked to me (most likely from a page that can't be found without typing in the url directly) ...trash. Ask me to link to an Made for Adsense or pure affiliate site... trash.

The label is about worn off my delete key.

JollyK




msg:414149
 3:48 pm on Feb 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

Heh. Oh yeah, I love all the ones from PR2 or PR3 sites that tell me about the "importance of linking." :-)

yintercept




msg:414150
 3:49 am on Feb 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

... so they can opt out If they need.

An opt out button on a link request ... ha ha. That's a good one. If a person does not respond, then they are not interested in an exchange.

By its very nature a link request should be one and only one email to an address. There should never be a follow up email. There is nothing to "opt out" of. Sending in more mail to that address is spam.

Quite frankly, I would delete a link request with an opt out button or mention of CAN SPAM. An opt out button on unsolicited email is spam incarnate.

Back to the question of when is a link request spam. If you are responding to an email address put on a web site to solicit information about the web site; then it is not spam. It may be annnoying ... it is not spam. If you are sending a mass mailing to an email address you purchased, then it is spam.

I get hundreds of link exchange requests to info. It's all spam. I don't use the info address.

If you send a link request to a web site that does not have a link page. Then you being a stupid annoying person. Although I would not consider the email to be spam, I would consider you a spammy person.

My answer to the question is: Sending an link exchange request to a contact address on a web page that has a links page, and does not have something saying "No Link Exchange Requests" is not spam. There should at most one contact to the web site. Anything beyond that is spam.

Rollo




msg:414151
 9:25 am on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

If it's an email to a single recipient written specifically for that recipient, whether solicated or not, it's not really spam. If you compose an email for a general audience and send it to more than one site, that is getting into spam territory.

Crush




msg:414152
 9:40 am on Feb 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

We just spam people. It is easier and the law of averages comes into play.

CainIV




msg:414153
 4:59 am on Feb 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you are responding to an email address put on a web site to solicit information about the web site; then it is not spam.

Bingo.

If it is sent to one person but is unsolicited it, too is spam.

When you openly encourage link trades on your site and leave an email to contact you should expect it.

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