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Beware of Blog Submission Software
I Got Banned from Google!
magnumgrp1




msg:409981
 9:47 am on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was within the first 5 results in Google but nowhere in Yahoo. So, for the first time, I decided to use an automated link-building method.

It posted about 3,000 blog comments for me. And then, to my horror, I found that GOOGLE HAD BANNED MY SITE!

Apparently Google no longer condones automated comment posting on blogs that have enabled it.

So STAY AWAY FROM <blog submission software> unless you want to suffer the same fate I did!

Lucky
PS: <snip> gave me excellent support while I was a user. But when I asked her for a refund, she simply did not reply. I finally asked Clickbank for the refund, which they they gave in 24 hours.

[edited by: martinibuster at 3:49 pm (utc) on Oct. 25, 2005]
[edit reason] Specifics. [/edit]

 

pmkpmk




msg:409982
 9:50 am on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

It posted about 3,000 blog comments for me. And then, to my horror, I found that GOOGLE HAD BANNED MY SITE!

Surprise, surprise!

sugarrae




msg:409983
 12:37 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>Apparently Google no longer condones automated comment posting on blogs that have enabled it.

Yea, since about 2003. In *most* cases where people are selling them to others, the links are worthless anyway.

NameNick




msg:409984
 1:06 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

@magnumgrp1

You write that the software exactly did what you wanted it to do. Nonetheless, you requested refund? May I ask you why you think that the software vendor is responsible for Google banning your website? Not to mention that this could have been happened anyway.

NN

bobothecat




msg:409985
 1:07 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

It posted about 3,000 blog comments for me. And then, to my horror, I found that GOOGLE HAD BANNED MY SITE!

Good.

Apparently Google no longer condones automated comment posting on blogs that have enabled it.

Even better :)

grandpa




msg:409986
 1:17 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Now comes the work. You've got to remove those 3,000 blog comments and beg forgiveness with the G-Gods. Lesson learned: links don't come easy - some links are worth paying for, some are not.

FWIW, blog comments do work. Build yourself a page that people will want to comment about, and let the links come naturally. (I make about $60 a month from two highly forumed and blogged pages.)

Crush




msg:409987
 3:10 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

ROTFL, hahahah got to love the newbies :)

martinibuster




msg:409988
 5:11 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ok, obviously the op may not have known that blog spamming is not the best way to link dev a site you want to keep viable in the long run. It's not the software's fault, though. It's the user's fault for not knowing the tool and the job the tool accomplishes.

Philosopher




msg:409989
 5:16 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well...somewhat of a grey area if you ask me. If you read the sales letter at the software devs site, you will notice it definitely leads the reader to believe that the software is perfectly safe and will NOT harm you at all.

That is definitely misleading as anyone with any experience knows that is simply not true. In that respect, the software is not performing as advertised.

jk3210




msg:409990
 5:28 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

magnumgrp1-

Sorry you got nailed, but thanks for posting the warning. Your post will probably saved other webmasters from suffering the same fate.

magnumgrp1




msg:409991
 12:47 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your replies, friends... I hope my post saves some of you from self-destruction.

The seller site said that Google knew all about <snip> and tolerated it because

(1) Blog owners on blog.com could always block automated comment posting by selecting an option in the settings

(2) If automated commenting was not thus blocked, it meant the blog owner permitted them

I bought this logic, but unfortunately Google no longer does!

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[edited by: martinibuster at 7:04 am (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]
[edit reason] NO SPECIFICS PLEASE. [/edit]

reggy




msg:409992
 4:30 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

It wouldn't be right for Google to do that bcos ur competition can easily set up fake blogs and use blog submission software to submit ur URL - isnt that correct?

vincevincevince




msg:409993
 6:48 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Apparently Google no longer condones automated comment posting on blogs that have enabled it.

As far as I know they have never condoned any way of artificially enhancing your rankings.

JohnCanyon




msg:409994
 5:36 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

This does not make sense to me. Google states that there is almost nothing another webmaster could do to harm your rankings.

If you are saying you got banned because you were using blog submission software, that would mean competitors could effectively wipe your site out by doing the same thing.

I don't buy it. I would imagine that if you were willing to use blog submission software to SPAM, then you were probably utilizing other black hat techniques which got you banned.

Illah




msg:409995
 7:08 pm on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah I agree with JohnCanyon...the comment spam was probably the straw that broke the camels back so to say. What other methods of promotion did you have going on besides this?

If you *were* 100% clean outside of the comment spam then Google has some work to do...

--Illah

magnumgrp1




msg:409996
 10:11 am on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

John and Illah, I swear on my life that this was the only automated link/rank building method I had ever used. Apart from manually registering in directories and writing a few articles and press releases, I really did nothing else to affect my rankings.

And yes, it IS possible for a competitor to spam blogs with a link back to your site, and in that way get you banned... this has actually started happening (there are reports of it on the web, I read one last week, but don't have the link).

Maybe that's why Google no longer tolerates automated blog commenting.

mojomike




msg:409997
 8:31 pm on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

spamming the blogs. interesting idea, but 3000 in less than 3 months. way too dangerous.

in researching what Google ( and most likely other search engines ) say, logarithmic growth of links is very dangerous over a short period of time.

if I were to do it, I would plan 180 to 360 days of linking. week 1 to 3 would create 1 or 2 links per day, then wait until the Google dance. after that every few weeks increase the submission rate to new blogs by 2 or 3. By the time week 40 is around, you are creating 20 to 40 new links per day.
Mojo

Gary_Numan




msg:409998
 12:54 pm on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

<quote>ROTFL, hahahah got to love the newbies :) </quote>

Patronising comments like that just shows a lack of intelligence and decency.

People learn, people make mistakes.

There was no malice of intent in what the guy did, just lack of knowledge.

I suppose you were born perfect and continued that way ever since?

idiot.

Iguana




msg:409999
 1:03 pm on Nov 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

There was no malice of intent in what the guy did

Polluting 3,000 blogs with irrelevant spam? No malice intended to the people who write the blogs? Duh

Well, at least you concede stupidity

pompousjohn




msg:410000
 1:42 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Maybe one of the blog owners compained to G? That's what I would do if I got spammed by someone trying to get ranking.

MetaFunk




msg:410001
 4:54 pm on Nov 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Come on people, if this was correct then anyone can wipe their competition with in days.

There is no way submitting to blogs can get your site banned as anyone can submit just about anyone's site.

G,

Essex_boy




msg:410002
 2:47 pm on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just what I was thinking, scary huh?

richardmasoner




msg:410003
 6:41 am on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Okay, here's a hypothetical. If I purchase this comment spam software but target the links to a competitor's website, what happens? Can I get the competition's website banned?

Crush




msg:410004
 9:27 am on Nov 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

yeah,scary!

Ricky_G




msg:410005
 9:44 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google always does the right thing.
I am really happy that it banned you!

why?
I am victim of such blog posting softwares. People like you keep posting comments on my blog thru softwares, attaching link to your site in the hyperlink.

Hurry! Hats off to Google!
Nice Job!

ah...! Now I am feeling much better :)

HughMungus




msg:410006
 10:18 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

(2) If automated commenting was not thus blocked, it meant the blog owner permitted them

Reminds me of a certain large company's opt-out-to-protect-your-copyright policy for one of its new services.

mojomike




msg:410007
 10:27 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

I had that same idea. target someone to talk thier site off line. triky to say the least, I don't think it would work with very old sites that havev consistent ranking.

Now I do feel that it would take out all the new ones without a problem.

MIchael

HughMungus




msg:410008
 10:40 pm on Dec 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wouldn't Google know who posted all the comments by matching the posting IP with other data that Google has on the OP's IP? e.g., Toolbar, Adsense, Adwords, etc.?

Crush




msg:410009
 12:06 am on Dec 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have seen it been done with a blog script with proxies. Nasty. I guess G could have moved on now to evaluate such an attack.

digicam




msg:410010
 3:49 pm on Dec 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do not buy this, if it was true then the "miserable failure" blog/links would not still be Number1 for Bush.

cheers

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