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How many links do I need to get spidered quickly?
ONE backlink from PR5 vs. ONE backlink from PR4
dareRock




msg:419583
 1:38 pm on Aug 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello all...I apologize for any duplication wrt this question, but I've read that in efforts to get a new site indexed quicker, all you need is ONE backlink from a site with PR > 0. Basically, get indexed in days rather than weeks. Is this true?

Also, If the above is true, and/or if anyone has some additional insight, would 'time-to-be-indexed' be similar/different if a website with PR0 had only ONE backlink, which was from a PR5 vs. having only ONE backlink, which was from a PR4 website?

Thanks in advance!

 

izahmad




msg:419584
 6:15 pm on Aug 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

Only one link from a website of PR >=5 is enough to get your site indexed....If you want to get out of sand box quickly, keep that one link untill the new G update...Once its out of sand box, you can do the regular link building....DO NOT attempt to get many links in the beginning as it will be indexed quickly(which can be also be done with one link only) but will not get out of sand box quickly!

dareRock




msg:419585
 10:26 pm on Aug 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

thanks for the reply izahmad...

so one link, and one link only from a PR4 page will do nothing by way of getting my site indexed faster, right?

Also, how long does it take to get indexed usually? I imagine it varies, but ballpark?

izahmad




msg:419586
 4:39 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes one link from a PR 4 page is enough to get it indexed..Well it depends on the position of the link on that PR 4 website...If it is on top of the page, it can be indexed within 1-2 days..If it is way down towards the bottom, can take upto week....but no more than a week....

caveman




msg:419587
 6:27 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well it depends on the position of the link on that PR 4 website...If it is on top of the page, it can be indexed within 1-2 days..If it is way down towards the bottom, can take upto week....but no more than a week....

Gee, I never knew that. :-)

Getting spidered quickly is good. Ranking quickly is better. ;-)

Get good, relevant links.

Get as many as you can, within reason; not thousands overnight, but more than ten. Not all recip links, preferably. One way IBL's are better. In all cases, get relevant links, for now.

Go lightly on buying links, except maybe from big directories. Still worth a look at the PR of the pages you're buying from, if you're buying (PR is an unreliable indicator, but some mega directories lately have lost PR on some pages, and it's probably meaningful).

Build relevant links, over time, as any good site would. Send personal emails. Make phone calls. Talk to people.

Get good, relevant links.

dareRock




msg:419588
 12:50 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

That's great....I also, never knew that you could get indexed so quickly with only one IBL from a PR4 website!.....

Now, the next question is, assume the PR4 webpage is the homepage VS. a sub-page on the same domain.....Is it the same amount of time to get index, regardless of what page you are on, if both are PR4 webpages?.....or does the, top of page link vs bottom of page link idea play a role here?

How many links, is too many links on a page? Example a PR4 webpage links to 10, 15 or even 20 other domains per PR4 page.

Thanks in advance...the insight has been great so far!

izahmad




msg:419589
 6:32 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

yea caveman even i did't know that untill i did some experiments with the link positioning....if the link is on the top, it gets spidered quickly...but if it is towards the bottom, can take some time...maybe google thinks the link towards the bottom are for spamming purposes....as we have seen many spamming websites who have tons of links at the end of the page....

sugarrae




msg:419590
 7:58 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

You'll get quick indexing if you get a link from any page that is spidered often. But getting indexed won't get you ranked. Aim for a lot of links because while one my get you indexed, you'll need quite a bit more than that to rank on anything.

dumai




msg:419591
 4:28 am on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google runs 2 types of spyders in a month. One which runs every couple days that checks only the index page for links. So having your index updated frequently to new content is a good idea. The other spyder that runs once a month crawls the entire site. Link positioning is very important, having a bread crumb is ideal.

canthavejust1




msg:419592
 6:41 am on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes, one well positioned good PR link can get you spidered, sometimes in a matter of days. Not only can it get the new site spidered, but it can give almost immediate PR to the new site.

dareRock




msg:419593
 12:23 pm on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Would one link from a PR4 website be enough to get you out of the sandbox?

gnuman




msg:419594
 10:35 pm on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been spidered by google and I'm linked on PR 9 sites for my articles yet I still have a 0 PR. I have been flooded by google spidering my site and still nothing.

How long does it take to get a PR from google?

martinibuster




msg:419595
 11:03 pm on Aug 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>How long does it take to get a PR from google?

I believe it's right away. But the toolbar doesn't show it. The toolbar is updated every three months.

Please, a gentle reminder that questions about Google go in the Google News forum. Thanks.

cava




msg:419596
 3:18 am on Sep 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a wierd story I reg my domain and it was normal PR 0 then I developed the site just after the last PR update and it was again normal pr 0 but a month after that or 1 month befor now :) I got PR 1 have no idea how..

shafaki




msg:419597
 2:58 pm on Sep 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

1

Team_Index




msg:419598
 4:53 pm on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nice info, thanks.

JamaicanFood




msg:419599
 12:46 am on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

My Thought - Buy top PR links..these get spidered quickly

Hey guys let me know if I am wrong PR is really determined by links i.e. backward links to your site, you can buy links or you can solicit them, but first be very sure to determine what are the benefits you would like to accrue from doing this,

Is it driving traffic to from another site to your site or is it to pass along PR to get to the top for some keyword term or phrase. Remember if the keyword is competitive other publishers are doing the same thing you are doing.

If its just to get spidered quickly just go the PAID SUBMISSION ROUTE. You cant lose with that option.

But my? for Martini is does it make sense to actually buy links if you want to achieve the latter of the two options..

JF

graywolf




msg:419600
 6:21 am on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Links in the "content" part of the page work better than those in the "template" for getting the spiders attention.

dareRock




msg:419601
 12:38 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

i heard links closer to the top of the page get noticed more by bots.

graywolf - any idea how much content needs to surround the link? i wonder if one non-linked text (word) in front and behind a link would get noticed more than just a text link on it's own?

graywolf




msg:419602
 2:01 pm on Sep 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

i heard links closer to the top of the page get noticed more by bots.

  • For a spiders eyes you want to be first in the HTML, visual placement is less important.

  • For a human you want to be first visually, placement in the HTML is less relevant.
  • justdave




    msg:419603
     8:09 pm on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

    I recently finished a site. Haven't submitted it to search engines or gotten any other links of any type yet. While I was still building the site, I created a Yahoo!Local profile with a link to this site. Looked today and the site is completely indexed by Yahoo AND Google, but not MSN. I thought this was incredibly cool since Yahoo!Local is free to set up and that is the only possible source (unless the SEs are now crawling websites they find in the whois index).

    2004mark




    msg:419604
     9:21 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

    As soon as I register a new domain for a client I put up one or two holding pages with some keywords that I will be targeting scattered about (sparingly) and then add a link from one of my other websites home pages. It will normally be indexed with most SE from a few days to a week or so.

    I have found that the PR of the site that links into it doesn't seem to matter, just as long as that site is spidered regulalry.

    dareRock




    msg:419605
     2:43 pm on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

    I have also found this to be true (2004Mark's response).

    adeel shahid




    msg:419606
     12:06 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

    Very nice info guys, feels good to be among the knowledgeable.

    jdancing




    msg:419607
     12:19 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

    One good link will get you spidered and indexed quickly but you still will be in the sandbox. But at least the GG clock, however it works, will start ticking when you get indexed.

    Average sandbox time seems to be 1 year to 18 months. Which is great for those of us with established sites.

    dareRock




    msg:419608
     1:09 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

    a new site with one BL from a PR5 website, seems to keep you out of g's sandbox......i've also experiemented with a new site having one link from PR4 website, which gets indexed almost everyday, same deal as PR5......

    can anyone share their experience with a similar model as above?

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