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Link Building - One Way vs. Reciprocal links
Subzero_SEO




msg:426152
 10:23 pm on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Newbie question: As you can see this is my first post.

I have put up a website and am now ready to proceed with the link building strategy.

I have heard that Reciprocal links are losing their weight and that it is better to gather one way links.
I just have the following questions.

1. Is it worth exchanging reciprocal links?

2. Do you have any more ideas of how I can gather oneway links?

Thanks

 

flaxmac




msg:426153
 7:10 am on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi, I wish I had this answer when I first started.
The way to get your page rank up is get the one way links, this you probably know. The best place to get them is from Directories. But it is best to find relevent directories. Do a search on "widgets add url" or "widgets submit url" widgets is for your main key phrase for your site. A lot of the directories you will have to pay for, but some are free.

Then the next step will be job postings, if your widgets, somehow relate to certain jobs you could always post your site details in the classifieds, this also helps increase traffic.

You can start to add reciporical links now, but only with content sites that have a lot of simialr content that you have on the page that they are going to link to you from.

The next step is where you probably have to spend a bit of money on a product like <snip>, I haven't done that yet but I am planning to do it soon.

Hey and don't forget me when you get really really RICH.

[edited by: martinibuster at 7:29 am (utc) on Aug. 3, 2005]
[edit reason] Nor URLs, especially to tool sites & Directory Lists. Ack! [/edit]

martinibuster




msg:426154
 8:06 am on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>The best place to get them is from Directories. But it is best to find relevent directories.

Relevant directories are hard to find. Directories that are daisy-chain linked to other directories owned by the same owner (most sharing the same template) are easy to find.

Directories are a good place to start, but most SEO directories, especially ones you find on lists, need to be scrutinized closely.

One problem with some directories is that they are marketed to SEOs and Webmasters. The problem with that is that they don't have traffic since zero brain cells were expended to promote them in search engines. As a consequence, anyone from Google can look at that and view it as a pr selling scheme and penalize it with a white bar. Indeed, it has happened on many occasions.

Another problem with some directories is that their backlinks are shady. Other directories are poorly indexed and have all their categories listed as supplemental results. Be aware.

If you are in it for the long haul, think about building a quality site. If what you are trying to do can't be done with a quality site, then think about building a quality site to feed into your lead generation site.

Also, a network of quality sites can feed PR into your new sites. Once you have PR (as worthless as that is for ranking), you can then embark on a more successful recip link campaign.

The thing about recips vs. one ways is that many people report good results from linking out to quality sites. Especially when it comes to Google, generally, what is good for the user will be good for you.

I'm not sure where this recips are dead rumour keeps coming from, because from my experience, it's not true.

As for Yahoo, it looks like link analysis is playing a greater role.

coconutz




msg:426155
 8:27 am on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>Another problem with some directories is that their backlinks are shady. Other directories are poorly indexed and have all their categories listed as supplemental results. Be aware.

I wouldn't be surprised to see general directories follow the same route as guestbooks.

pocoloco




msg:426156
 9:24 am on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

want to have a great one way link page?start doin it from today focus on an event that will happen in the next 2-3 years........(SPORTS)

pocoloco




msg:426157
 9:26 am on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

ie:start building from now a page for the world Cup in football in Germany 2006.

glengara




msg:426158
 12:01 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

*Also, a network of quality sites can feed PR into your new sites.*

Can be tricky to implement without shooting yourself in the foot, not for the "New User", IMO.

johnser




msg:426159
 1:32 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>I wouldn't be surprised to see general directories follow the same route as guestbooks

Do you honestly think that's going to happen? Especially when G's guidelines say to get a link from DMOZ, Yahoo & other relevant directories?

I would have thought that links from directories like above, Joeant, Gympsy etc will gain in "trust" since they are all manually approved - and following on from the TrustRank theory which may or may not get used sometime this century.

murugan




msg:426160
 6:34 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

One way links (Easy to get) : From directories (Free & Paid)
Reciprocal Links : Time consuming and have to be very careful on not to link bad sites.

One way links have extra weightage than reciprocal, but sites doing only reciprocal are also ranking well.

The main source for one way links are directories and nowadays lots of directories are getting banned.

AdDoctor




msg:426161
 2:06 am on Aug 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

How come no one mentioned buying links from brokers and services?

digitalghost




msg:426162
 2:15 am on Aug 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>I'm not sure where this recips are dead rumour keeps coming from

It comes from people slapping up hundreds links on a worthless page, then acquiring reciprocal links from other pages that have hundreds of links, slapped up on worthless pages.

If you're going to go after reciprocal links, go after deep links. Don't link back and forth from the same page, but link from one relevant page to another relevant page. Better yet, Link from site A to site B, then have Site C link to your site A.

Recips got a bad rap because of the way most people implement them. Personally, I never seek links on a page named "links" or "resources" or "partners" or "sponsors" or any such nonsense.

Would I take a recip from say Yahoo's homepage to one of my homepages? You betcha.

sugarrae




msg:426163
 11:20 pm on Aug 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

LOL - recips don't kill websites, dumb webmasters kill websites.

Tigrou




msg:426164
 10:20 am on Aug 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Recips absolutely help, at least if your site is already somewhat competitive due to good 1-way IBLs. Just finished a test to see if it still works and it still does.

Lots written here on how NOT to do those campaigns.

shafaki




msg:426165
 12:02 pm on Aug 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Correspond with webmasters and other content providers and build rich linkages between related pages.

[help.yahoo.com...]

I find that the above official Yahoo! recommendation for improving the ranking of a web site has not other meaning than: reciprocal links.

Of course the phrase "related pages" above is the key.

Note: "Link farms" create links between unrelated pages for no reason except to increase page link counts. Using link farms violates Yahoo!'s Site Guidelines and will not improve your page ranking.

Again, the key phrase here is "unrelated pages".

Bottomline: As I understand it, Yahoo! actually asks us to build reciprocal links by networking with other webmasters and content providers but only between "related" pages.

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