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220,000 New Links Overnight
Is there a link command error in the major SE's right now?
Matt Pellerin

 5:38 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi All,

Sorry for the fantastic title, but I really need some help.

I have lurked, read and learned a lot here and have only asked for help one other time, so here goes.

Recently my main website has gone from hardly any IBL's to massive amounts, and I mean massive. Almost overnight!

I used to always show around 2500 IBL's (give or take a few) in all the major SE's, so this must be the true number for my site. Two days ago it was brought to my attention, by a competitor no less, that my IBL's had skyrocketed. This competitor had the ba]]$ to ask my how I did it and offered me a fairly large amount of cash to share my "secret". He directed me to take a look for myself, so I did and I was floored. I had something like 130,000 IBL's from each engine (except Google of course). I checked again yesterday thinking it was a fluke... not only was it not a fluke but I now had 220,000 IBL's showing on each engine. Needless to say I began to worry. Today when I checked there are something like 327,000 IBL's showing from each engine.

I am getting really scared now because I am thinking someone has it out for me and is trying to get my site penalized.

I'm not normally paranoid, really. But this is nuts.

Can anyone help, or shed some light, or begin hypothesizing? Please.


One Scared Straight Webmaster

[edited by: tedster at 7:13 pm (utc) on May 19, 2005]
[edit reason] remove specifics [/edit]



 5:55 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello Matt Pellerin,

It's not Ok to post your personal URLs per TOS. If you still can edit your post, please do.

Are you seeing any traffic spikes from all those new links? if they are new of course)..

Matt Pellerin

 5:59 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

No traffic spikes.

Can not edit, it said something about a time limit. Sorry to step on anyones toes... in all my lurking I really never read the rules since I don't post.

Can someone please edit my URL to be non-active? Please leave it there though for someone to use to look at my situation.


 6:10 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

are the links real?

or they are internal links from your own site?

Matt Pellerin

 6:14 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

They have to be real, I am assuming. I only have around 700 pages on that site.

MOD's, please edit the link in my first post. Thank you.


 6:15 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just to mention: I did a link:http search and saw over 300,000 links. Then I "repeated the search with the omitted results included" and it said you had 643,000 links.

Matt Pellerin

 6:26 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's nuts isn't it?


 6:44 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Matt -

using linkdomain:yourdomain.com shows 817K links in Yahoo.

Have you joined any sort of automated link exchange service, or recently joined some sort of community?

I ask because most of the links seem to be in recip directories from related sites.

Maybe your webmaster did it for you?

Matt Pellerin

 6:53 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Over 800K now! This is sickening.

I have recently joined nothing.

I am my own webmaster, that is why I lurk here so much. It is sort of a hobby for me, I find it all so fascinating!

Yes, there are many, many themed links. I have added them one by one through many years of hard work. I normally have around 2500 IBL's showing in all the SE's except G.

I do EVERYTHING by the book. I have been offered good money for home page banners and politly refused, I only sell homes on my site and that is it. This is why this has me so concerned that someon is trying to sbatoge my efforts.

Again, I am requesting a mod remove the active link in my first post. Thank you!

Matt Pellerin

 7:12 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have wasted my entire morning on this!

Get this: I went through as many as I could by hand and actually came to the end and it said repeat search without duplicates omitted so I did. Well there is one link from one page being repeated over and over and over. They spiders must have got hung up on that site. It is a site about blogs where I posted a comment on the software the site offers. Funny how Google's spiders, and MSN's didn't get hung up there.

This has to be the answer, there are pages and pages of this one link showing from the same exact URL.

Okay, mystery solved, no one is trying to sabatoge me. Now, what to do next? Will contacting Yahoo help?

Matt Pellerin

 7:20 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Tedster, I see you jumped in and saved face for me. Thank you. I had PM'd Brett to do it since there isn't a mod assigned to this category. But, you got here first.

Thanks again.


 7:29 pm on May 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

> Well there is one link from one page being repeated over and over and over.

Well, Yahoo will straighten it out. Chances are they got hung up by session ids or some flukey dynamic page loop - in the mean time, let your competitors do some stupid stuff to "catch up" with you, they'll end up banned, and you'll be #1 in the serps. :)


 8:11 pm on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

sitewide links from other sites probably started counting as individual links.


 8:29 pm on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I had something similar happen to me once. Had the same page indexed over and over again with different session ID's. It was a phpBB forum post, or several.

Basically thousands and thousands of pages from basically one or two posts.

If I had a link to someone in one of those posts, they probably saw a huge spike in IBL's too, similar to yours.


 8:49 pm on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I thought a competitor had blog spammed you with damaging achor. That is also a possibility.


 3:45 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

You need to take the cash from your competitor. Then tell him that you did absolutely nothing to get those links. Thanks for shopping!


 6:23 pm on May 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

You are too funny!

Don't take anything Matt and stay under the radar.

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