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just spent about 5 hours getting 100 odd one way links
and it was painfull ... but not as much as it could have been
OddDog




msg:417374
 8:34 pm on Apr 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

But thanks to all that I have read here, I suspect that it will be successful.

In particular I would like to express my gratitude to a poster who mentioned roboform. Thank you so much.

That made it an average of 3 minutes per oneway link.

Will see in the next 2 months how that goes.

 

pmkpmk




msg:417375
 8:57 pm on Apr 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Be careful that the rate your inbound links grow still looks natural!

howiejs




msg:417376
 2:37 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

OddDog - any comments that you would share - on how you found / contacted these sites?

OddDog




msg:417377
 8:13 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I made the list from searching for lists of free directory listing not needing reciprical links.

On the natural growth front. Yes you are correct. But it is a new site, firmly planted in the sandbox. But I wonted to experiment with MSN and Yahoo timings for getting listed and these directory links.

I do not plan to do much more linking. Some recipricals (you just have to have a few ... ) on topic relevant sites.

Was thinking of creating a directory on topic in the same domain. Am still thinking on it. Not ssure if new domain or not.

steve




msg:417378
 11:34 am on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Was thinking of creating a directory on topic in the same domain. Am still thinking on it. Not ssure if new domain or not.

I added an industry directory to my website about 6 months ago and seeded it with 100 entries.

An entry is free, all I ask for is a link back to it.

I'm now getting 2 or 3 requests for entries per week, so I'd say go for it. You get a steady stream of new links and visitors to your site.

sfcarioca




msg:417379
 4:30 pm on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

>I made the list from searching for lists of free
> directory listing not needing reciprical links.

How would one go about doing this? I suspect there are link directory software products that allow one way links and one could search for those strings. Does any on know of some of these?

thanks.

guoqi




msg:417380
 10:38 pm on Apr 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have spent one week time and still get less than 100 one way links, I can not believe that it only takes you 5 hours to do that...

Can you share more detail how you did it? how you search for those sites? and even go to every one of those directory sites will takes much more than a few minutes per site.

jaffstar




msg:417381
 6:13 am on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have spent one week time and still get less than 100 one way links, I can not believe that it only takes you 5 hours to do that...

A team of 3 could not achieve that in one day. Trust me, we do it everyday.

steve




msg:417382
 8:31 am on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I made the list from searching for lists of free
directory listing not needing reciprical links.

Search for:-

'add a link'
'add your url'
'add your site'
'free listing/entry'
'your keyword + directory'
'directory of directories' - also worth looking in dmoz

You could also drop your URL in blogs, forums, etc. (after checking the posting guidelines of course)

rj87uk




msg:417383
 8:45 am on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a new team of 6 who are sending out requests (9 - 5:30) we didnt get 100. They know exactly what to do.

Its just a mix of luck, experience and skill ;)

web_india




msg:417384
 9:08 am on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

A team of 3 could not achieve that in one day. Trust me, we do it everyday.

Seems OddDog has just submitted to 100 odd directories for one-way links since he says

>>>Will see in the next 2 months how that goes.>>>

not that he has got one-way links in 5 hours as his post title suggests :-)

OddDog




msg:417385
 9:20 am on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

i have to leave the office for a meeting, when i come back i will back track to see how many have linked.

yes the title is incorrect, but these directories have no reason not to include and many already (in less than 24hrs) have the site indexed.

will do a total count. the total list of directories is 165.

these are all DIRECTORY one way links. not valued authority site links.

later will post.

I had no intention of belittling the hard work of link seeking. I was more interested in recommending roboform for directory include url work.

OddDog




msg:417386
 2:37 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

ok got back to the office.

I just searched in 20 of these directories to see if i had got the link. In 8 yes.
(a couple of 1 and 2 prs + a pr4)

So if we accept that 40% are already listed that makes from a total of 164 directories roboformed a total of 65 links gained so far. (i did this only 2 days ago).

I am supposing that more will include the url (most sent the typical auto response ´it takes upto 7 days´.

web_india




msg:417387
 6:37 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

OddDog, You seem to have done it the right way so you should definitely see the benefits of your efforts.

sfcarioca




msg:417388
 6:52 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

has anybody (including odddog) used both roboform and the google toolbar autofill option. I think the google solution is pretty good and a great time saver, I'd like to hear a comparison of the two.

limitup




msg:417389
 6:59 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I use Roboform and couldn't imagine needing anything else ...

jaffstar




msg:417390
 7:23 am on Apr 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

After painful manual submissions to thousands of directories, we are now equiped with roboform.

illneverrememberit




msg:417391
 9:01 am on Apr 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm a COMPLETE novice trying to come to terms with linking.

I run an ecommerce site selling stuff, I don't want links to take people somewhere else where they can buy stuff, so is the best I can hope for to get reciprocal links from manufacturers who supply me?

What other sites should I be asking to link to me?

My main aim is to get a higher ranking in google btw. (Probably this is everyones main aim so don't flame me for ignorance, thanks).

evan420




msg:417392
 11:16 pm on Apr 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

All-

Good thread - is there a certain price you've paid or would pay for link(s)? I'm looking for a per-link price or some guidance to getting text link ads on legitimate sites.

Also, it's obviously best to have the anchor text and the link itself point to a page within the site with content relevant to the anchor yes?

thanks

jaffstar




msg:417393
 7:13 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good thread - is there a certain price you've paid or would pay for link(s)? I'm looking for a per-link price or some guidance to getting text link ads on legitimate sites.

Read up on Googles link filter, I have heard link brokers stating that purchased links might take months before they give you full credit.

Unless you are running a very streamlined site with good conversion, I would not buy, as your ROI 9 times out of 10 will be shocking as well as the risk of getting caught.

Catfish




msg:417394
 6:58 pm on Apr 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't have a link but basically Roboform helps you fill out submission forms quickly by automating the process. And the custom fields are the real cool thing about this program. My link exchange team LOVES roboform.

chris surfrider




msg:417395
 4:31 am on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

as your ROI 9 times out of 10 will be shocking as well as the risk of getting caught

Get caught for what? Having backlinks? I thought Google awarded link popularity with pagerank, not penalization...

Anyone care to fill me in on this? Perhaps by "getting caught" you meant being overloaded with business(?).

Not sure what you mean.

-Chris

incrediBILL




msg:417396
 4:44 am on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Have you people ever read what google says about this stuff?

Avoid SEOs that talk about the power of "free-for-all" links, link popularity schemes, or submitting your site to thousands of search engines. These are typically useless exercises that do not affect your ranking in the results of the major search engines. At least, not in a way you would likely consider to be positive.

IMO links for the sake of just having a back link from unrelated sites can be a huge waste of time.

I'm very selective about keeping my links industry specific, never submitted to all the free-for-all sites, and my sites dominate their keywords.

OddDog




msg:417397
 6:10 am on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

hi bill,

these are directories.

All links are in there relevant sub directory. 100 (give or take) back links isn no big deal (I really doubt that will trigger the link growth part of the algo).

And with a little luck some of them will become future DMOZ´s ...

In MSN I am finding that link numbers count more than link quality. I am in the sandbox. I am going to forget about google on this site.

jaffstar




msg:417398
 6:16 am on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Get caught for what? Having backlinks? I thought Google awarded link popularity with pagerank, not penalization...

You will get caught if you get too many too quickly.

incrediBILL




msg:417399
 7:42 am on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

these are directories.

Did you verify these directories are actually being indexed in google/yahoo?

If they aren't, you wasted your time.

Reid




msg:417400
 8:03 am on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I had a directory (free link) do a 302 on me and sucked the life right out of 2 sites.
Make sure they offer a real link - not a 302 re-direct.

Here is what you will get in the SERP

YOUR TITLE
your description
(their url) you really want this?

that's your SERP their url.

You should also look at HOW they are linking to you.
Also do the 'link bins' have any PR or just grey bar?

Some of them could hinder you more than help you and you will get 0 visitors from them anyway.

So what is your motive? traffic from them? unlikely
PR? check them out first
Backlinks? make sure they're good backlinks.

Tigrou




msg:417401
 6:07 pm on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

OddDog, very cool. Wanna share your list? ;-)

I've literally tried over 2000 free submit directories for multiple projects with a 7% success rate. Success in this case meaning STATIC one way links on just about any topic. There are maybe another few hundred useful one way niche directories.

pmkpmk, re: "natural rate", I was worried about this for a long time, but then started testing and haven't seen a problem to date.

I'm guessing that this is because they don't show up superquick -- 35-40% of the "free submit" links tend to show up 2-3 weeks after you submit. The rest any time over 2 months.

The really cool part is that these one way links are from IPs all all over the web, and right on target (assuming you choose the right subcategory).
And it seems (although I have no proof) that you can get away with more dodgy links if you have this baseload in your link portfolio.

The downside on all this is that you have to be flexible on your anchor text.

limitup




msg:417402
 1:44 am on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm very selective about keeping my links industry specific

You can't be hurt by having a site link to you - even the worst, most shady site on the entire web. It can only help. If you have an efficient and low-cost way of getting 1000s of sites linking to yours, regardless of theme, it's a good thing.

OddDog




msg:417403
 11:13 am on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

some updated information for you all:

link:www.domain.org -domain:www.domain.org in msn gives 49 backlinks.

link:http://www.domain.org in yahoo gives 9 backlinks

0 in google.

that is in less than waht 3 buying the domain name. 10 days since listing in these directories.

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