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whats your method for gather link parnters?
do you use tools or manually one by one
crimsonblack




msg:417867
 1:05 am on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Im wondering what others do.. do you use some deadly secret tool for spamming people to get them to link back.. like arelis or something.. where you bang out 4000 emails in like 5 mins.. with your email

or do you go one by one.. and visit sites.. and spend like 5 hrs.. doing link exchanging?

im just at my wits end it takes so long to do this.. i have tried automating it.. but still takes forver..

seems noone wants to link back to a new site so how in earth can i get link partners.. and also it takes so long

 

martinibuster




msg:417868
 4:02 am on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>seems noone wants to link back to a new site so how in earth can i get link partners?

Directories. Point some links from your own network to your links page to help pump it up. When the next quarterly toolbar update happens, send out the recip requests.

It's common knowledge that people generally don't want to link to a no pr website. So you when building websites you have to anticipate the wait. If you can't stand the wait then while you're developing a site put up holding page content with the important urls, i.e. yourdomain.com/links.htm.

Of course, you're obviously beyond that point, so my advice is to submit to some directories and start a spreadsheet of people you want to spam with your link exchange request.

neuron




msg:417869
 3:42 pm on Mar 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I know of multiple instances where people have their sites shut down for spamming email link requests. So, you need to make sure you've got a good backup of your site and a standby host in the event you decide to pull that machine gun trigger.

I do use ARELIS to spider in search of sites, but I then export that data into a hosted script DB that allows more than one person to work on getting links at one time. The linker only needs to use a browser to do the linking process. In ARELIS, only one person can work on getting links for a single site at a time. We always review every single site manually. 2/3 of the sites found by ARELIS are deleted as being inappropriate to request links from. Out of the remaining ones, 2/3 have their own online forms to fill out rather than taking link requests by email. Thus, if you pull that machine gun trigger 8/9 of the email you send will be spam, if you don't review them first. Often time ARELIS collects the wrong information.

There is no substitute for the manual review. Yes, it takes a long time. Generally, one linker, working full-time, can review about 500 sites in one day. 110 sites will be invited to link via their online form, and 55 will be invited to link via email.

We have found we get a much higher success rate by filling out the online forms. Sometimes as high as 50%. Email success varies much more and is generally below 15%.

cking




msg:417870
 3:19 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah, I have use arelis, and while it does find tons of results, weeding through them kills me! It took me about two hours to go through about 125 sites, and even then I only came out with about 10 links (the client I was doing this for already has a ton of listings).

I am wondering if the ZEUS tool is any good. The stuff I hear about it is that you can tell it which sites not to use, and based off of that information it is programmed to "learn" what kind of sites you are looking for. Although I am not sure if it is really that good.

Have any of you guys messed with it?

Sharper




msg:417871
 8:35 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Something I just started doing recently for one of my sites is to find a couple of sites using an automated link exchange tool (like Reciprocal Manager, Linking101, LinksManager, ARELIS or Zeus), grab some common text from their add link page, then use Google to search for that text in quotes, along with a word related to the theme of my site.

I then figure that if their add a link page is in Google's index and considered keyword relevent to my search, it's a decent bet that I can get a good link from them, so I just start down the list using their automated recip-link forms to check them out and ask for a link, which have been convienently listed for me in a decent priority by Google.

Simple, but fairly effective in saving time so far. Except for the other sites in my same DMOZ category or something like that, I don't really bother with a personalized email. I'd rather look for people who have already indicated with a form that they want to exchange links.

figment88




msg:417872
 8:44 pm on Mar 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

with the important urls, i.e. yourdomain.com/links.htm.

But don't call your links page "links.htm." Some webmasters won't recip with pages named links.*

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