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Can search engines penalize website for getting links too fast?
mig1234

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Msg#: 2042 posted 5:17 pm on Dec 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Each time I create a website I exchange links with other websites that are willing to exchange links. This way I can get 90 incoming links in the first 3 days when the website is online.

After that, I no longer work on the link development of that website.

Can search engines give website a penalty for developing links in this manner?

 

cg89118

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Msg#: 2042 posted 8:37 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

The answer is yes.

From what my SEO guy has told me Google recently has taken this in consideration and you will get penalized for it.

If you are only going to do 90 incoming links then do them over a 3 month period.

Whatever you do just do it consistantly. Dont get 90 one month then 3 the next then 50 the next. If you get 90 this month get 90 next.

With link farms and link exchange programs people have the abilty to do massive amounts of links at once and I believe Google looks at this like you are trying ot get around thier system rather than work with it.

piskie

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Msg#: 2042 posted 8:56 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree.
Yes they can and it is a general 'Opinion' that the rate a new site acquires links is a part of the Google Sandbox filter.

IMO however, 3 months to introduce 90 links may be playing a little too safe. A new site introduced with say 5 good links is reasonable and will mean that spidering will start as a natural propagation process rather than having to submit.

After that, I try to play very safe by introduce new links at an 'Average' of about 10 per week. I try to ensure that this average of 10 is not a rigid figure but deliberately varying between say 7 and 13 per week over the weeks.

In addition to these 'Engineered' links, most sites will probably pick up incoming links as a matter of course anyway which also adds to the randomness.

The figures above are determined by the size of site that I generally work with for local small businesses and would be totally inadequate for launching a new Amazon or the like.

vaniaul

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Msg#: 2042 posted 9:18 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi Piskie

After that, I try to play very safe by introduce new links at an 'Average' of about 10 per week. I try to ensure that this average of 10 is not a rigid figure but deliberately varying between say 7 and 13 per week over the weeks.

Agreed that you build links with no more than 13 links, but how do you make sure that all the 13 will be indexed by Google. Do you have any special measures to work on that.

I'm also working on lInk building on my sites and ws wondering if sth cud make sure that my links are indexed by Google.

Thanks in advance!

Regards
Vani

piskie

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Msg#: 2042 posted 9:29 am on Dec 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

We have no influence at all over how Google deals with links other than to ensure that the link is in a form that is 'Spider Friendly'.

Google will harvest links along with normal spidering to index content. There is no way to influnce this astronomically massive automated process.

howiejs

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Msg#: 2042 posted 2:33 am on Dec 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Good question. If you get 100 links day 1 - 10 of them may be indexed off the other sites tomorrow - then 30 in 1 week - another 40 in 25 days, etc

neuron

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Msg#: 2042 posted 7:29 am on Dec 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

90 links in 3 days? Any "penalty" would be algorithmic and would likely be in the form of a filter and not a penalty. Google is not going to single your site out for a manual review for a measely 90 links.

Since you are talking about getting a single link from each of these domains you are trading links with, it's not even considered link spam, so there would be no algorithmic need to filter such links.

If Nike started producing Air Cars and built a new site to market these wonder vehicles, they'd probably get 100,000 links within a few days (from 100,000 different domains). It is unlikely some algorithm would punish the site for such a thing.

Getting 10,000 links from a single domain is easily handled algorithmically by use of a filter wherein the number of links counted will be reduced. 9999 of those links are unlikely to be counted for anything. It's not a penalty, it's a filter.

Can the search engines implement such a penalty? Yes.
Do they? No.
Will they? Unlikely.

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