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Having more links than any competitor
Discussing backlink importance
konaandcooper




msg:420802
 7:37 pm on Oct 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hello everybody,

I come here quite often but hardly ever post. Grandpa used to tell me the best way to learn something is to just sit back and listen.

I think this topic has been touched on but never really asked of the group so here we go.

I am developing a website selling widgets. If a person was to search for widget on G/ogle the numberk1 or 2 guy in the industry pops up. I check his links with "link:www.domain.com" and see he has approximately 500 incoming. I then go to Alexa and see he has around 1700 links (I assume the others are just outbound )

My domain has the "widget" as part of the domain, and it is part of the title, and is found thoroughly throughout the website. If I was to achieve more links than my competitor and every single link that came in was directly related to the search term, should I expect to be ranking on the first page and perhaps even higher than him?

 

martinibuster




msg:420803
 10:02 pm on Oct 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

>>>should I expect to be ranking on the first page and perhaps even higher than him?

It's a reasonable expectation, although nothing about this is certain.

Liane




msg:420804
 10:17 pm on Oct 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

martinibuster ... wouldn't the value of the links coming in make a difference as a variable? What I mean is even if the new guy gets 600 links, if his competitor has many more PR6 or PR7 links, couldn't the old site still rank higher regardless of having fewer links?

That was always my understanding.

buckworks




msg:420805
 10:59 pm on Oct 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

Liane is right; it's possible for a site with fewer links to outrank a site with more.

For a variety of reasons, not all links pack the same punch.

martinibuster




msg:420806
 11:09 pm on Oct 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

...wouldn't the value of the links coming in make a difference as a variable?

Absolutely agree. That's why I qualified my statement with "nothing about this is certain."

I routinely beat aggressively link developed websites, so I know first hand there are limitations tied to other variables.

But it's a reasonable expectation that if you get more links you may outpace the other websites.

Hardwood Guy




msg:420807
 12:17 am on Oct 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Off Subject--any ideas?

Alexa? I see backlinks of mine that have been dead for 12 months. Who shows the best up to date backlink count thesedays? Most of what I've heard over the two years I've been at WW is alltheweb.com. Is this still the case?

coconutz




msg:420808
 2:23 am on Oct 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm finding the most current backlink info at Yahoo using
linkdomain:www.yoursite.com -site:yoursite.com to list all of the external links pointing to that site or
link:http://www.yoursite.com -site:yoursite.com to see the external links pointing to a particular page.

Christyl Stevens




msg:420809
 8:07 am on Oct 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have a question for the pros here.

I routinely beat aggressively link developed websites, so I know first hand there are limitations tied to other variables.

But it's a reasonable expectation that if you get more links you may outpace the other websites.

This got me thinking, so I did some research for the term INTERNET MARKETING.

The top 10 pages show the following amount of backlinks.

134,000
6,310
479
380
67
1,400
453
538
669
482

The top 10 pages for the backlinks query of the #1 page above < link:http://www.domain.com/ > shows the following amount of PageRank for those top 10 pages.

PR0
PR0
PR7
PR7
PR7
PR0
PR6
PR7
PR0
PR6

My question is this.

Let's assume that all of those pages contain the same anchor text. Would those pages that are a PR0 still pass ranking consideration for the keywords used in the anchor text?

I know that PR0 pages don't pass any PageRank, but I would like to know if they still pass ranking points for the keywords?

TIA

Hardwood Guy




msg:420810
 9:31 am on Oct 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks coconutz

Looks kinda odd. I've been on a link hunt for the last 4-5 weeks. Some very recent ones appear, others do not. By my count I should have a few hundred extra that's not seen on yahoo. Guess I better check for those that may have added our link and dropped it. Noticed several that changed the link text that does me no good.

mbush27




msg:420811
 8:04 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hello,

I have also been acquiring links. For my main search term which is two words, I am currently ranked 75th in Google. It is not super competitive. The top 3 sites show this number of backlinks in yahoo:
1 4,890
2 272
3 530
4 357
5 130

I currently have 898. My goal is to be 2nd. I have been doing this for about 3 and a half months. Can I expect to be moved up significantly soon?
Mat

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