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Link Dev Tool Ruined my Ranking in Three Days?
Is it possible to be penalized in Three Days?

 2:35 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)


I started using Arelis 3 days ago and as soon as google indexed the link directory my ranking fell dramatically.

It could be totally un-related, but i'm pretty sure google recognized arelis and penalized me.

I hope i can recover, my advice is don't use Arelis!



 2:36 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

There is no substitute for good home grown organic links when you have a legitimate site looking to take long term ranks.


 7:07 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

I started using Arelis 3 days ago... i'm pretty sure google recognized arelis and penalized me.

Highly unlikely. Three days? No way. I'd say there is no connection whatsoever.

  • Google doesn't penalize that fast
  • Many people successfully use Arelis without incurring penalties

Look to something else you did two, three, or four months ago. That's a discussion for Google News. You may want to dig around through the Google News Library for questions about penalties and bannings, etc.


 9:43 pm on Aug 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

3 Days does not seem real, there has to be something else.

Here are few things you can think about:

1) Have you been trying to to do link exchange with others and have done link exchange with non-related content site?

2) Have you been checking link popularity of your site quite often using automated tool? (from your computer)

3) Did you had any other link page on your website with possible spammy methods? (tooo many kw.. hidden txt.. etc)

well it could be one or more of the tons of possible things, but like martinibuster said, 3 days does seems Highly unlikely.



 10:12 pm on Aug 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't see how Arelis can have this affect. Arelis is a tool run client side to gather links.

Of course, Arelis can be used to create your link pages, but I don't see how Arelis can leave any identifiable marks on your website that would be penalized.

If I had to wager a guess, you may have published links to either bad neighborhoods, or the "themes" of the links (anchor text) compromised the "theme" of your website.

I have observed that onsite links are important to Google for creating the theme of the website as a whole.


 12:54 pm on Aug 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

I had a similar situation about 6 months ago when I started to use automated tool.

The thing about the automated tool was it did not use resources on search engines, it just would hop from domain to domain to find me suitable link partners.

I lost all pr and could not work out why.

When I looked closer I have duplications on my site. I cleaned the site up with 301 redirects and the serps and pr came back within about 1-2 months.

A costly lesson but it proved that it was not the methods I was using.

"It's not the tool that counts, it's the way you use it :)"


 2:03 pm on Aug 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

What do you mean by "Duplications"?


 2:22 pm on Aug 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

I found old directory pages that were identical - must of been a minor detail in my configurations.

A few pages I did not even know I had were getting page ranking. This would never happen now, but it was one of the many things that can effect it.

Thankfully I am a lot more knowlegable now :)

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