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Firefox 1.5 is out
drhowarddrfine




msg:1587564
 12:07 am on Nov 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Get it before they're all gone!

What, we can use links [mozilla.com] now?

 

D_Blackwell




msg:1587624
 12:29 pm on Dec 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

MiniT is now built in to FF 1.5

Should tab scrolling work by default now? Can I just make a configuration change?

afterburner




msg:1587625
 12:27 am on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

89 I agree 100%

afterburner




msg:1587626
 11:54 am on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

what is the major difference between FF and IE? I am not familiar with FF at all and want to try it.

MatthewHSE




msg:1587627
 12:41 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Security
Faster browsing
Loads of handy features (extensions)
Tabbed browsing
...much more, but those are the highlights in my opinion.

Go for it - you'll like it a lot! ;)

drhowarddrfine




msg:1587628
 1:36 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Firefox:
Works correctly with all web code.
Works on all operating systems.
Is constantly under active development and improvement.

Farix




msg:1587629
 2:04 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Why not download it and try it out for a couple of weeks?

Hester




msg:1587630
 3:18 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Firefox: Works correctly with all web code.

Except IE-only code such as ActiveX and bordercolor.

drhowarddrfine




msg:1587631
 6:58 pm on Dec 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Except IE-only code such as ActiveX and bordercolor.
But that's not web code. Or at least not standard web code. No browsers work with that but IE.
Hester




msg:1587632
 9:09 am on Dec 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

And yet millions of sites use such code. Only recently on WebmasterWorld someone was asking why bordercolor didn't work in FF.

Robin_reala




msg:1587633
 1:50 pm on Dec 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm a Firefox fanboy as much as the next man but to be fair it doesn't work correctly with all 'web code'. It's still got bugs and missing features (e.g. I really could have done with 'display: run-in;' the other day). But it is a very solid core and up there with the best of them - I'm particularly talknig about Safari here.

drhowarddrfine




msg:1587634
 2:28 pm on Dec 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

And yet millions of sites that use ActiveX can't be viewed on FF/Unix/Apple/Linux.

And yet IE can't view XUL.

It works both ways.

Not looking for a fight or taunting you. If a site is going to use code that isn't viewable in all browsers, yada, yada. If a site is going to use non-standard code, no matter who publishes it, yada, yada.

Robin_reala




msg:1587635
 2:50 pm on Dec 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Your example's not quite fair - any OS that Gecko has been ported to can run a XUL app but only Windows can run ActiveX.

(at my last check Gecko was on Win32, Win64, Linux, Solaris, BSDs (inc OS X), OS2, Be, PocketPC, AIX, and a few more)

drhowarddrfine




msg:1587636
 5:57 pm on Dec 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

But only an OS can run ActiveX and FF is not an OS.
IE and FF are both browsers but IE cannot run XUL.
IE and FF are both browsers but IE cannot run web served xml/xhtml.
So on common ground, IE cannot (insert many things here)

Purple Martin




msg:1587637
 1:51 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

All this debate about which browser can or can't do this or that is good, as long as we use the knowledge we learn from the debate properly: we must identify the needs of the users of our website(s) and then use the available technology appropriately to meet those needs. It's not about which browser is "better", it's about how we can provide the best possible solution to our target audience.

Hester




msg:1587638
 9:43 am on Dec 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see it as using which technology is applicable to the most user agents. Since Gecko (Firefox's engine which can be used in other applications as well) adheres to standards, it's a good idea to code that way, rather than putting in code that only works in IE6. That may be fine for your intranet, but why limit yourself? (Forget about those "cool" Microsoft-only tricks.)

I fear more problems when IE7/Vista emerges and things like 3D page turns are implemented. People will use them not realising they don't work in any other browser.

Really, there is only one way to code - and that is to publicly agreed standards. Anything else is bound to hurt your audience.

amygrech




msg:1587639
 10:31 pm on Dec 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

How can I get the Google Toolbar to work?

Amy

henry0




msg:1587640
 12:52 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

As per Drhowarddrfine
Works on all operating systems.

I improved my CMS to work on FF as well

Today I was working with a graphic artist that uses MAC
But my CMS editor does not work 100% on MAC

Are you suggesting that if he loads FF on MAC my editor will work?

Stefan




msg:1587641
 1:17 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

One of the best things about Firefox is no ActiveX. That's the main gateway for spyware, and anyone using IE should disable it (once they've figured out how to do it, because Bill doesn't make it easy for a novice computer-user).

Robin_reala




msg:1587642
 10:40 am on Dec 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

henry0 - yep.

amygrech - [toolbar.google.com ]. Firefox by default whitelists only the Mozilla update servers. You may have to specifically allow Google to install software. Click on Install and if it doesn't work check for the yellow bar at the top of the screen. Then allow google.com and try again.

amygrech




msg:1587643
 8:35 pm on Dec 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks!

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