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Microsoft opens a public bug database for IE
Follows Firefox's Bugzilla
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msg:1589546
 2:53 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Microsoft is for the first time encouraging people to give public feedback on Internet Explorer, with the creation of a bug database for the next version of its browser, IE 7 beta. (...) "Many customers have asked us about having a better way to enter IE bugs. It is asked 'Why don't you have Bugzilla like Firefox or other groups do?' We haven't always had a good answer except it is something that the IE team has never done before."

[news.zdnet.co.uk...]

 

SilverLining




msg:1589547
 5:13 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Interesting what Microsoft [connect.microsoft.com] has in their CSS...


* html .StupidIEMarginHack {
margin-right: 1px;
}
* html .StupidIEWidthHack {
width: 100%;
}

cerebrum




msg:1589548
 6:04 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

So Microsoft agrees that IE is stupid?

Kufu




msg:1589549
 6:19 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

SilverLining,

That is priceless!

I hate how much time I have to waste trying to fix CSS that works in IE.

MatthewHSE




msg:1589550
 7:12 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

Notice the comment above those "StupidIEHack" lines...

/* fix for the IE 1px-off margin error */

Wonder if Bill knows he has a rogue web developer somewhere who thinks a MS product {gasp!} has bugs!

mack




msg:1589551
 9:32 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

lol you woudl at least think they woudl clean up the comments lol

Mack.

nomatter




msg:1589552
 9:43 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

oh, what a great finding!

lol, so it is IE.

coopster




msg:1589553
 10:57 pm on Mar 27, 2006 (gmt 0)


It is asked 'Why don't you have Bugzilla like Firefox or other groups do?' We haven't always had a good answer except it is something that the IE team has never done before."

Perhaps the answer is because it would cost money as opposed to making money. Somebody would have to be paid to actually review the bug reports, sort them, assign them, and (shudder) fix them. I found this interesting in the FAQ from the ms blog link in that news article:


Will all bugs reported be fixed before IE7 is released? If not, when will they be fixed?

Not every bug reported will necessarily be fixed. Issues reported during the IE7 Beta 2 will be looked at and we will do our best to fix issues reported to us. There are specific windows of time where risky or very complex issues can be fixed and times when it would jeopardize shipping on time and with the quality necessary for the release. This makes determining which issues can be fixed and when a bit of a juggling act and it is up to the individual feature teams working on Internet Explorer to make the best possible determination of what can be reasonably addressed.

As Bill Gates mentioned at MIX06 this week, we have committed to doing regular releases of Internet Explorer moving forward. Anything that we cannot fix during IE7 that is a valid issue will be considered for the next IE release following it. Just because a bug is not fixed immediately, it doesn’t mean that it has been forgotten.


MatthewHSE




msg:1589554
 12:21 am on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

we have committed to doing regular releases of Internet Explorer moving forward

I'm not sure if I should be glad or anguished over that bit of news. It's good news as far as standards compliance is concerned, at least if MS follows through with some of their recent promises. But as far as, um, other issues are concerned, I'm not sure I'm happy about IE coming into active development again.

But all of that has been said before...

Edwin




msg:1589555
 2:53 am on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

There are specific windows of time where risky or very complex issues can be fixed and times when it would jeopardize shipping on time and with the quality necessary for the release.

I'm not sure that "risky" issues should be dodged, no matter how much effort it takes to put them right. Unless they mean "issues that will open up a can of worms" rather than "security/stability issues" - it's pretty vague.

Hester




msg:1589556
 8:51 am on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

The bug database is accessible from the Microsoft Connect site and can be accessed by anyone that has a Microsoft Passport account.

So it isn't open to everyone then. How typical.

Hester




msg:1589557
 3:10 pm on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

From the IE Blog:

The current version of the site will require visitors to have a Passport account in order to view or enter bugs. In an update in a couple of months, visitors will be able to view existing bugs without logging into the system.

Ah, that's better.

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